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lutach · 05.06.2008, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Five-oh-joe

How hot does it get? I'm guessing it's pretty smooth if it can start a 6 pole motor huh?

I bench tested for a few seconds and it didn't get warm at all. I also tried to see if the BEC would get warm at all and nothing. I'm having a blast with the Wireless programming.

highflier · 05.06.2008, 09:10 PM

I have a Aveox motor that needs repair, When I got it they said life time replacement guarentee at 50% of cost. I can not figure out how to get that anymore :(

On the other topic, CC is getting my money via RCM. Don't have much interest in the current one that Lutach is looking at. But we have to give them credit the did beat CC to the market. Now that HV version. That would have me looking real close depending on the pricepoint that is.

Highflier

lutach · 05.06.2008, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by highflier

I have a Aveox motor that needs repair, When I got it they said life time replacement guarentee at 50% of cost. I can not figure out how to get that anymore :(

On the other topic, CC is getting my money via RCM. Don't have much interest in the current one that Lutach is looking at. But we have to give them credit the did beat CC to the market. Now that HV version. That would have me looking real close depending on the pricepoint that is.

Highflier

I would call Aveox and throw that in their faces. They can't say lifetime and then drop out of the R/C like that.You can send it to Neu and they'll fix it (For a price). Steve Neu used to work with Aveox and the Neu Motors are basically the same design. Castle is here in the US and that's what makes it better. I like the wireless programming feature of this ESC and if Castle does decide on offering a program box, then it would be a definite better choice. I will see how this controller does tomorrow. When and if I do get the HVs here, I will report to all of you.

sleebus.jones · 05.06.2008, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lutach

They only sent me ths unit because the 50V and 63V ones are not ready. Those are the ones I'll be really interested in.

Ah. Yup, those would be much more interesting.

glassdoctor · 05.07.2008, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by lutach

Yes and it's pathetic. They should have kept the R/C line up and running and lower the price so more people could afford them. Some companies makes me sick with their business concept. I guess the government pays them pretty well for them to completely forget where they all started (My best guess as I've had a Aveox since the early days.

I've heard that Mr. Neu used to work for Aveox.. so I have always figured it's not a coincidence we have seen the rise of Neutronics and the fall of Aveox fromt eh r/c world.

Side note... my cousin lived in Socal for a while and did some work at Aveox... and they hooked him up with a car system. That was a couple years ago. He says the guys there were really cool, but obviously they aren't concerned with the r/c market. That not where the big/easy money is so I can't blame them if they are raking it in somewhere else.

lutach · 05.07.2008, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by glassdoctor

I've heard that Mr. Neu used to work for Aveox.. so I have always figured it's not a coincidence we have seen the rise of Neutronics and the fall of Aveox fromt eh r/c world.

Side note... my cousin lived in Socal for a while and did some work at Aveox... and they hooked him up with a car system. That was a couple years ago. He says the guys there were really cool, but obviously they aren't concerned with the r/c market. That not where the big/easy money is so I can't blame them if they are raking it in somewhere else.

They could've kept a side of the building just for R/C. If they kept coming out with new technology and made their products a bit cheaper, they would definitely be the leader in BL systems. Do all the government work, but do R/C as well. They would make more money that way.

lutach · 11:59 AM

First run went ok for the speed control, but bad for the slipper clutch. The run only lasted for 3 or so minutes, but this Scorpion Commander can handle the 6S and the BEC was doing a fabulous job. Good news from Scorpion: They will add a bigger heat sink. Everything worked nice. Throttle response in good and I didn't have the "Motor Start Booster" on. Brake is also good, I have the soft brake setting on. It brakes soft like it should, but it's also nice to know if you want to lock the tires, it will if you grab full brake. I have attached a photo of the data and I have set the SPS to 50 for a more detailed graph.

Edit: Graph came out bad. Sorry.

johnrobholmes · 05.07.2008, 12:34 PM

Nice. Im gonna be hitting up lucien for one of these babies as soon as he gets back from the show.

I have a perfect vehicle for the 12s version. My motorbike

lutach · 05.07.2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by johnrobholmes

Nice. Im gonna be hitting up lucien for one of these babies as soon as he gets back from the show.

I have a perfect vehicle for the 12s version. My motorbike

. John, this controller is good man. All it needs is a big heat sink and a fan to add that extra things needed for a car controller.

johnrobholmes · 05.07.2008, 04:47 PM

I have been recommending a few versions to them, the fact that the 6s was first tells a lot about where they may go.

05.08.2008, 04:07 AM

It's sure nice to see more than one company making advances in this segment of the hobby. Hopefully it will be a reliable option, and they bring on the HV soon.

That IR programmer is the stuff, I dig that big time. I would love a more portable programming option for the CC stuff, I dont like dragging the laptop everywhere.

Serum · 05.08.2008, 04:36 AM

Cool! we are back to the controllers in a bag!

i guess you need to teach those dudes we like the controllers in a housing Lutach..!

lutach · 05.15.2008, 02:30 PM

I ran the MBX5T again today, but I went a tooth higher on the pinion to a 15T to see if I could get the controller to hit it's Thermal Protection. Well it did and it worked beautifully. Keep in mind this is not the same controller that will be offered by Scorpion. Scorpion will add a larger heat sink and a fan (Fan might even be Thermal controlled). I still have the original heat sink and I will be changing it with a larger one and I will be adding a fan as well. Well motor and ESC got hot. The Max. Temp on both were 212F and the avg. on the ESC was 160.83F and the motor was 156.36F. The batteries were just warm and I put back 1639mAh after around 6 minutes of running the truck. Max. current was 85.69A and avg. was 12.34A. I don't now how accurate the min. voltage on the DPR-150 is, but the graph did not show 13.14v min. as it's says. Each pack had 11.34v in them still.

johnrobholmes · 05.18.2008, 06:21 PM

Do these have the same fets as the air version? Just different programming?

lutach · 05.18.2008, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by johnrobholmes

Do these have the same fets as the air version? Just different programming?

The FETs on the one I have are the NXP PHK31NQ03L. I have suggested another FET from NXP that seems a lot better as it has much less resistance then the ones there now. I have also suggested 3 or more powerboards to handle higher current. I will post some pictures of what I will do to the unit I have. Good thing my Schulze 18.97 failed as I'm going to use the heat sink from it and the fan from my Novak HV controller. I'll probably do a little box to fit the controller in and use some left over capacitors to make a big capacitor bank to see if it can help in the heat issue. John, I'm very impressed with this controller. All the safety features works, it went into the 50% power before it hit the Thermal cut off. The switching BEC works like a champ.