What is this BS Castle is feeding this customer?

[Sower]

As intrigued as I am, it's all speculation until CC or MA stops in to clear this up.

Hi Guys,

Austin here with MaxAmps. The speed control does not determine the amp draw, the motor does. If the motor is pulling more than 120 amps constant, go with an 8000 pack. Most people are going to want more than 3 minutes of runtime anyways.

For the record, MaxAmps packs can be used with the MMM speed control. Depending on what MaxAmps pack you are using and the amp draw of the motor, you may need a different pack. I think that is what castle is trying to say. If you try and run any 4000mah pack with a 200 amp constant motor, you are going to have trouble. It has nothing to do with a MaxAmps pack vs another manufacturer.

Hope that makes sense,

Austin
CEO MaxAmps.com

[Sower]

Originally Posted by austinelse

Hi Guys,

Austin here with MaxAmps. The speed control does not determine the amp draw, the motor does. If the motor is pulling more than 120 amps constant, go with an 8000 pack. Most people are going to want more than 3 minutes of runtime anyways.

For the record, MaxAmps packs can be used with the MMM speed control. Depending on what MaxAmps pack you are using and the amp draw of the motor, you may need a different pack. I think that is what castle is trying to say. If you try and run any 4000mah pack with a 200 amp constant motor, you are going to have trouble. It has nothing to do with a MaxAmps pack vs another manufacturer.

Hope that makes sense,

Austin
CEO MaxAmps.com

Ask and ye shall receive!! Nice Austin, thanks for stopping in!

[BrianG]

Originally Posted by skellyo

On another note....

I'm just glad you're in south FL Dicky. I don't want to catch any of your bad juju on my MMM's.

I still think you're geographically too close to Dicky. You should either move or send me your MMM just to be safe.

[skellyo]

Originally Posted by austinelse

Hi Guys,

Austin here with MaxAmps. The speed control does not determine the amp draw, the motor does. If the motor is pulling more than 120 amps constant, go with an 8000 pack. Most people are going to want more than 3 minutes of runtime anyways.

For the record, MaxAmps packs can be used with the MMM speed control. Depending on what MaxAmps pack you are using and the amp draw of the motor, you may need a different pack. I think that is what castle is trying to say. If you try and run any 4000mah pack with a 200 amp constant motor, you are going to have trouble. It has nothing to do with a MaxAmps pack vs another manufacturer.

Hope that makes sense,

Austin
CEO MaxAmps.com

I appreciate you stepping in here to dispell this rumor. I couldn't honestly believe that anyone at Castle or Maxamps would tell a customer such things.

[BrianG]

Yes, thanks Austin! 3 pages of speculation was 2 pages too many IMO.

[skellyo]

Originally Posted by BrianG

I still think you're geographically too close to Dicky. You should either move or send me your MMM just to be safe.

[glassdoctor]

Originally Posted by BrianG

I still think you're geographically too close to Dicky. You should either move or send me your MMM just to be safe.

That just sound wrong

Brian, come out to the track Wed night and check out the Monster. I have two... you can try one out for the week if you like.

[BrianG]

Yeah, that did sound bad didn't it? Oh well.

I was planning on going to the track anyway. Any idea what classes are planned to run and what time we're starting? I'd like to run the buggy if possible. Or maybe the Revo or CRT.5. Don't want to run the Jato because it's too tempermental for me, especially since I'd be in the mod truck class with the other pros.

I'd like to see the MMM, but don't want to take the chance to smoke it. Besides, all my setups use ESC mounts that are too specialized to switch between ESCs that quickly.

[What's_nitro?]

It may have been said before but I didn't feel like reading every post. There is no way that an under-powered battery can kill an ESC! The LVC would hit and it would shut down. I can't figure out where CC is trying to go with this one... Are they trying to protect their earnings by telling people to buy better quality batteries so that the system will perform as advertised? It's up to the end-user anyways to make sure his/her components are matched properly. If something fails, like a battery getting too hot, then it's their fault for not matching the battery to the job. I don't see why CC is concerned... Further more, why would MA be saying "don't buy our stuff"? They should say "only buy our 6000 packs or bigger" or something like that and tell people why!

[George16]

Originally Posted by austinelse

Hi Guys,

Austin here with MaxAmps. The speed control does not determine the amp draw, the motor does. If the motor is pulling more than 120 amps constant, go with an 8000 pack. Most people are going to want more than 3 minutes of runtime anyways.

For the record, MaxAmps packs can be used with the MMM speed control. Depending on what MaxAmps pack you are using and the amp draw of the motor, you may need a different pack. I think that is what castle is trying to say. If you try and run any 4000mah pack with a 200 amp constant motor, you are going to have trouble. It has nothing to do with a MaxAmps pack vs another manufacturer.

Hope that makes sense,

Austin
CEO MaxAmps.com

Help me understand better how the MaH of a battery make a difference in the amp draw? I thought the discharge rate such as 25C and 30C makes the most difference in amp draw and that the MaH affects mainly the runtime.

[Sower]

Originally Posted by What's_nitro?

It may have been said before but I didn't feel like reading every post. There is no way that an under-powered battery can kill an ESC! The LVC would hit and it would shut down. I can't figure out where CC is trying to go with this one... Are they trying to protect their earnings by telling people to buy better quality batteries so that the system will perform as advertised? It's up to the end-user anyways to make sure his/her components are matched properly. If something fails, like a battery getting too hot, then it's their fault for not matching the battery to the job. I don't see why CC is concerned... Further more, why would MA be saying "don't buy our stuff"? They should say "only buy our 6000 packs or bigger" or something like that and tell people why!

You may not want to read every post, but you should read post #47 on this page from MA. About CC, we still don't know the full story until Patrick or another CC rep states their side.

Originally Posted by BrianG

I still think you're geographically too close to Dicky. You should either move or send me your MMM just to be safe.

[Pdelcast]

Sorry guys,

I think this was a misunderstanding on the part of one of our Tech support guys -- he wasn't aware of the newer Maxamps packs that could handle more than 15C.

The official stand of Castle is that any pack that can handle 75A continuous, and 150A peak is sufficient for use with the MMM.

Austin -- Sorry about that! You are right, there was a misunderstanding and it wasn't meant to target Maxamps in particular.

Patrick

[Sower]

Thanks for stopping in Patrick and clearing this up for everyone.