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05.24.2008, 02:52 AM

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I was watching a special on the car, and one of the engineers was holding a cell out of the pack. Looked exactly like the A123 cell (even had that dorky white cardboard wrap on it). I think A123 may have it on their site as well. I also remember them saying something about the voltage being 3.3v per cell, and the A123s are the only ones that I know of which that nominal voltage (I do believe there are some chinese rip offs of the a123 chemistry now though).

Edit: can't find anything on the cell used. The more I think about it, it's probably not an A123 cell, as this was before A123 had their 18650 size out IIRC. Still neat though.

I've seen the Eliica, and it is UGLY! Nice power output though. It's definitely a piggy when it comes to weight (about 5000lbs.!). The 0-60 time is impressive for something that weighs as much as that thing, and the 8 wheel drive certainly helps it scoot. The Roadster is about the same 0-60, if not a tad less than a tenth or so of a second faster though...hehehe.

Besides.....the Tesla screams "sexay!!!". The Eliica screams "fugly!".

Nice specs on the motor too Lutach. Definitely not a huge motor by any means. 150lbs. isn't too bad either. If you're relatively fit, you could swap that sucker in yourself.... What kinda transmission, if any, were you looking to mate it to? That's something else that's interesting about electric cars. The ones that I've seen either have wheel hub motors (so direct drive), or only like, two speed trannys due to their torque curves and the fact that they can produce power almost anywhere they need to; area under the curve is massive compared to an ICE. Imagine a CVT or CVP (look up NuVinci) mated to an electric powerplant. That'd be pretty neat. Unnecessary, but neat.
What impressed me the most about the Eliica is the top speed. Tesla doesn't come close to it. The motor that I'm looking at will be capable of speeds close to or faster then the Eliica, but it will all depend on gearing. I kind of gave up on it after the price kept going up, but with that motor I was going to basically try and see if hooking it to a 3:1 IRS rear end would do the trick.
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What impressed me the most about the Eliica is the top speed. Tesla doesn't come close to it. The motor that I'm looking at will be capable of speeds close to or faster then the Eliica, but it will all depend on gearing. I kind of gave up on it after the price kept going up, but with that motor I was going to basically try and see if hooking it to a 3:1 IRS rear end would do the trick.
The Tesla doesn't have that top speed because it's running through a 2 speed transmission that's a gear reducton (as you said, gearing is what gets these things up to such crazy speeds), and the motor tops out at 14,000 RPM max on certain models. It's also got a 250hp motor, which is peanuts compared to the Eliica. The Eliica has wheel motors, so you get far more wheel RPM than the Tesla gets probably; plus you got 8 of them in the Eliica, so that is bound to spread out the load more evenly amongst the motors as opposed to just one motor. Combine this with the massive power, and the thing is a lead sled rocket! Wonder how the Eliica handles weighing in at 5000+lbs.?

3:1 direct drive is crazy, especially with a 750hp capable motor spinning 20,000 RPM! It'd be super simple though! The less crap to break, the better (and with 750hp on tap....I'm sure stuff would break).

I'd love an electric drag car. Having 100% torque at 0 RPM would be a plus in drag racing (but could also really suck in terms of wheel spin off the line...).

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05.24.2008, 03:21 AM

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The Tesla doesn't have that top speed because it's running through a 2 speed transmission that's a gear reducton, and the motor tops out at 14,000 RPM max. The Eliica has wheel motors, so you get far more wheel RPM than the Tesla gets probably.

3:1 is a crazy, especially with a 750hp capable motor spinning 20,000 RPM! It'd be super simple though! The less crap to break, the better.
You won in style with the Tesla, but the Eliica can seat 4 people . Most of the electric cars I see coming out are crap designed by old guys and college kids who has no idea of what is out there. I remember one guy I met in Florida who used to say, "People that goes to college are basically dumb bastards who can't figure crap out on their own so they need to learn from someone else". I was .
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You won in style with the Tesla, but the Eliica can seat 4 people . Most of the electric cars I see coming out are crap designed by old guys and college kids who has no idea of what is out there. I remember one guy I met in Florida who used to say, "People that goes to college are basically dumb bastards who can't figure crap out on their own so they need to learn from someone else". I was .
LOL! Did he even make it past college? Someone may be a bit sour on the subject from bad experiences perhaps...

I wouldn't exactly call Aerospace Engineering "dumb crap" either....but that's just me. Hehe!

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LOL! Did he even make it past college? Someone may be a bit sour on the subject from bad experiences perhaps...

I wouldn't exactly call Aerospace Engineering "dumb crap" either....but that's just me. Hehe!
I couldn't say much as I was planning to get an electronic engineering degree myself, but he always made me laugh. Are any of you guys watching the show on discovery channel called "Mean Green Machines"? I'm looking at electric go kart putting a on a gas one.
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