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07.18.2008, 01:16 AM

Does this mean more delay or what? Im really thinking about canceling my order and maybe ordering a new one till next summer instead and then buy the MMM+1512 combo.
Is it another 2-3 weeks from now, and then another week or two until they get here (sweden)?
I would really want a straight answer...... im so tired of all the delays and my vacation is over in a couple of weeks so..... i placed my order in the beginning of May....

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07.18.2008, 02:47 AM

Welcome to the group!.. Personally I don’t believe CC will have the MMM ready to ship out until mid August.. and yes I will put my money where my mouth is!, who wants to bet $20 (??) CC isn’t going to be releasing the V2 “MMM” until at least the 12th or August..

Any takers how about you Patrick
I’ll bet up to the cost of a MMM so that means I’ll take (8) peoples money or two it just needs to total up to $160.00


Just so we are straight on the bet..

Mike needs to receive and send out the MMM’s on or before the 12th, that’s still more than 3 weeks away from this point, if that happens just send me your email address and I’ll Pay-pal you the money, if it doesn’t happen I’ll send you mine you and send me the money..

So who’s in / down for the bet (??)


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I'm doing this to prove a point, you have all been fooled into believing what they want you to think, I do big business like this all the time and CC know the date now!, hell they’ve know for a while but for them to come out 2 month ago and say it’s a 3-4 month fix would have driven all prospective buyers away, so they have been feeding just enough information to keep the masses interested.

Hell they knew they were going to do further bata testing but they they ever say that NO.. Why because that more time and more chances for people to go else where. it's all been a line people..

I for one have been calling their bluff from the beginning and will continue to until they provide product I paid for close to 3 months ago and still have not received..

I'm sorry but I'm just not a Fan of the CC now, but hopefully I will be in the future.. TBD at this point..


Nothing!.. Hahahahaaa..

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07.18.2008, 02:53 AM

I will have to agree with you on that point...but really up to us who bought and pre-ordered this...i have all the option to get MGM or Tekin yet I pre-order 2 (1 was just 3 days ago)...

I wont be taking you on this bet as I know that CC cant deliver sooner that what you've said...its a sad fate but that is what it is....

PS: Not sure if Patrick can comment on that....or take up your bet for that matter...


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07.18.2008, 04:18 AM

haaaa I'd bet Patrick a MMM / $147 alone if he wanted to go there (??) I think that's what i initially paid for it, it's been sooo long now I forget..


Bottom line it time for CC to step up to the plate and say it will be released on august 22nd and or September 3rd. This only benefits our customers as we blaa blllaaa blaaa..


Nothing!.. Hahahahaaa..

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07.18.2008, 05:59 AM

well they are saying 4 weeks on their website...


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07.18.2008, 06:03 AM

If I am not mistaken that 4weeks has been there since the failure of V1 (or before)....


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07.18.2008, 11:26 AM

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Welcome to the group!.. Personally I don’t believe CC will have the MMM ready to ship out until mid August.. and yes I will put my money where my mouth is!, who wants to bet $20 (??) CC isn’t going to be releasing the V2 “MMM” until at least the 12th or August..


I for one have been calling their bluff from the beginning and will continue to until they provide product I paid for close to 3 months ago and still have not received..
Yeah, I'll take that bet. But make it worth my while -- $20.00 pfft..
How about $500.00?

Since we have already shipped about 40 MMM V2s does that mean I win?

Fineline Stencil is delivering stencils on Monday morning. I confirmed that this morning. Production starts Monday -- so we should be shipping before the end of next week. Now, depending on where you bought your Monster, you might not get YOURS until much later -- but that won't be Castle's fault.


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07.18.2008, 11:29 AM

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Yeah, I'll take that bet. But make it worth my while -- $20.00 pfft..
How about $500.00?

Since we have already shipped about 40 MMM V2s does that mean I win?

Fineline Stencil is delivering stencils on Monday morning. I confirmed that this morning. Production starts Monday -- so we should be shipping before the end of next week. Now, depending on where you bought your Monster, you might not get YOURS until much later -- but that won't be Castle's fault.
do those 40 people have e-mails? or will it be a surprise? I just bought a new lipo from Mike today for my MMM when it gets back. hopefully soon, thank you for the update. I bought my monster direct ;)
   
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07.18.2008, 11:32 AM

Can one ring up and see if one was in the 40?

PS just tried no one in yet /busy in tech support / repairs... both rang to VM... :`(

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Can one ring up and see if one was in the 40?
I was just thinking the same thing. I was going to go buy a new esc today locally so i could run my revo in a local event next saturday, but if my MMM will be back I will save the cash..

edit: just called, morgan is checking on my status and will call me back. such friendly people answering the phones :)

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07.18.2008, 12:07 PM

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The new stencil will be in on Monday, and production will resume then.

Patrick

People -- don't complain that I don't give straight answers... How do you get more straight than this?

The new stencils will be in on Monday, and production will resume then. THAT MEANS PRODUCTION WILL RESUME ON MONDAY.

For those of you who need further clarification... That means that we will start building Monster Max controllers again on Monday.

If that isn't clear enough for you -- here's some more details.

On Monday, about 9:00am, UPS will deliver a pair of MMM stencils. A stencil (in the electronics world) is a large piece of nickel plated stainless steel, about .006" thick, stretched tight into a 29" x 29" tubular aluminum frame. The thin sheet of stainless has apertures cut out of it with a laser, and is used for putting solder onto a circuit board. The solder is printed onto the circuit board using a machine called a "stencil printer." Our stencil printer is a Dek Horizon printer. You can click on the link below to get more information about the Dek Horizon stencil printer:
http://www.dek.com/web.nsf/us/product_horizon

Our machine operator, Shawn Messmer, will load the Horizon printer with the solder stencil for the top side of the Monster Max first. He will then load solder paste (which is a paste made of microscopic solder balls suspended in flux), and start production.

After the solder is printed on the circuit boards, they then move out of the Dek Horizon (by conveyor), and into our Universal Instruments Advantis Lightning (AC-30L). Our Advantis AC-30L is our chip shooter, and will place about 32,000 parts per hour onto the MMM circuit boards.

After leaving the Advantis Lightning AC-30L, the board will move by conveyor to our Advantis FlexJET AX-72. The Advantis FlexJET is a little slower than the Advantis Lightning, but can place larger, more difficult parts. This type of machine is usually called a "flexible placer", where the AC-30L is called a "chip shooter."
To see more information about the Universal Instruments Advantis, visit this link below:

http://www4.uic.com/wcms/WCMS2.nsf/i...oducts_18.html

After leaving the Universal Instruments Advantis AX-72, the MMM boards will move through the reflow oven, a Heller 1707EXL. The reflow oven solders the board (all at one time!) by raising the temperature of the board slowly until all of the solder paste (stenciled on by the DEK printer!) melts, or reflows. To see more information about the Heller 1707EXL reflow oven, visit the link below:

http://www.hellerindustries.com/h1700EXL.htm

After reflow, the boards cool for about an hour. Then it is off to the inspection station, where we employ a MIRTEC 5 camera automatic optical inspection machine, which checks all the parts and solder joints to be sure everything is perfect after assembly.

To see more about our Mirtec 5 camera AOI, please see below:

http://www.mirtecusa.com/desktop3.html

Once all is checked and found to be OK, the MMM will then move into soldering, where our soldering technicials will add the switches and receiver connector (with love, of course!)

Then the boards move on to final assembly, where they are placed in cases and stickers are added to the case.

Next, the nearly complete MMM move into functional testing -- where each and every MMM is calibrated, and tested with loads of up to 100A. During functional testing, the output waveforms, throttle response, and cutoff voltage settings are all throughly tested.

After passing functional testing, the MMM move to finishing and packaging, where they are carefully placed into a box along with a CD, cable and Castle Link.

Then the MMM are moved into stock, where they will await final packing and shipping.

Hope you found that interesting!

Patrick


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07.18.2008, 12:08 PM

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do those 40 people have e-mails? or will it be a surprise? I just bought a new lipo from Mike today for my MMM when it gets back. hopefully soon, thank you for the update. I bought my monster direct ;)
Ahhh, you should have been contacted already if you got one of the MMMs...

So if you haven't heard anything, you probably aren't getting one of the early batch.

We ran into a problem with one of the stencils, which required a LOT of handwork to rework, so we just built a few MMM 'til we could get the new stencil.


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07.18.2008, 12:10 PM

Interesting and funny. Guess people can't say you dont give information anymore. :)


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07.18.2008, 12:14 PM

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Ahhh, you should have been contacted already if you got one of the MMMs...

So if you haven't heard anything, you probably aren't getting one of the early batch.

We ran into a problem with one of the stencils, which required a LOT of handwork to rework, so we just built a few MMM 'til we could get the new stencil.
Thanks for keeping us up to date.


Patrick does mike know how may v2 she will be getting?

If he does then we can ask Mike when all of us pre order folks will get ours. I am in the 2nd batch of pre orders ....
   
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07.18.2008, 12:18 PM

Patrick, this is to your detailed post!



That was great! I am impressed you even took the time to dignify the whiney people with a response but that one took the cake.

The way some of these people go on about CC you would have thought you personally came over to their house and slapped their mom around.

I for one am thankful for your participation in these threads and your willingness to be so up front with everyone.


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