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One LONG RANT / Where has the common sense gone? - 07.29.2008, 03:44 AM

Ever have one of those Mondays / weeks that just lasts for EVER (??)

Ok I'm spent!, work has been killer / A One-long two week Monday!..

Is common sense so completely removed from our society that no one really has it anymore (??) I’m talking about “professionals in their trade” this is what they do for a living people!!

Is it so fricken hard to take a moment out of scratching your ass and actually standing back, and OOooo (maybe think / dare to evaluate) what your doing and how it impacts the other trades / tasks after you’ve half assed it together to get back to drinking bear, video game planning, doing the girlfriend / neighbor thing….

Were / WHEN did taking pride and ownership YES I said it OWNERSHIP in you work, in your trade, in your profession go the way of the DODOO (??) Isn’t work over when it done / what you’ve committed too not when the clock strikes 4 – 5pm (?)

Don’t you take pride it what you do and how it finally presented to the buyer / owner ?? or is it just me ??..

So my question to the team is this (?) in your day to day life, do you actually witness “common sense” or have you found it OOooo lets say lacking (??)


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Sorry for the Rant.. I feel much better now..


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Ever have one of those Mondays / weeks that just lasts for EVER (??)

Ok I'm spent!, work has been killer / A One-long two week Monday!..

Is common sense so completely removed from our society that no one really has it anymore (??) I’m talking about “professionals in their trade” this is what they do for a living people!!

Is it so fricken hard to take a moment out of scratching your ass and actually standing back, and OOooo (maybe think / dare to evaluate) what your doing and how it impacts the other trades / tasks after you’ve half assed it together to get back to drinking bear, video game planning, doing the girlfriend / neighbor thing….

Were / WHEN did taking pride and ownership YES I said it OWNERSHIP in you work, in your trade, in your profession go the way of the DODOO (??) Isn’t work over when it done / what you’ve committed too not when the clock strikes 4 – 5pm (?)

Don’t you take pride it what you do and how it finally presented to the buyer / owner ?? or is it just me ??..

So my question to the team is this (?) in your day to day life, do you actually witness “common sense” or have you found it OOooo lets say lacking (??)


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Sorry for the Rant.. I feel much better now..

Sean

your getting a little Dennis Miller on us tonite.....but about commonsense...when I was in college I noticed that the smarter a lot of people got the more they lacked in common sense...I knew a few guys who were from a different country, and one was studying for his PHD in Nuclear Physics and he had finished his 100 page thesis and gave it to me to read...I got through a paragraph and a half and that was enough for me...., but when it came to commonsense he didnt have a clue.....
   
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07.29.2008, 04:05 AM

Right there with you Shaun...

I find that the more I look around, that I am the only person who pays any attention anymore, to anything.

I own a business, and have a few employees. Seems like they would rather look at an empty sky than pay attention to what they are doing. I try to make it interesting by randomly yelling at them, and making silly hats out of random objects like boxes. Even that does not work.

I have come to the realization that I am surrounded by mediocrity. Our society is currently breeding a crap load of people who have no accountability for their actions. I had to recently tell my employess that if they screw up anymore the repair costs are going to come out of their wages. That is about the only thing I can do, hit em where it hurts.

I do also enjoy cursing at people in other professions when they screw up. Not for little stuff, mainly customer service. I find getting loud and obnoxious is the only way for people to pay attention. Trying to be nice is like pushing water up a wall...

Nice to hear that others feel my pain too. I spent my entire monday sweating in my 90f plus office. The a/c fan smoked itself before I got to work, and it took us all day to find a replacement. I did not even bother to call an a/c repairman. You can imagine how well that would go...

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07.29.2008, 05:14 AM

i`m not alone !! yeppy :P well i struggle everyday with people`s lack of common sense. the funny thing is that u r complaining about customer service in the US where i have seen the best customer service in my life!! u should come here to Kuwait and be a Kuwaiti for a while, here when u complain about anything to any business 90% of the time u will get an apology without any action, and sometimes they actually tell u that u can go and they dont want ur business anyways !!
   
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07.29.2008, 05:25 AM

oh I agree. I have a small business and I detail cars. the cutting corners and stupid mistakes I saw working at dealerships and such made me leave. I have to repair a guys black hummer soon. He took it to the dealership (big name place) to have it detailed. omg. the guy obviously tried to do the whole truck without cleaning his pad once. the swirls cover the whole thing and the owner won't even try taking it back to get fixed.

Now I have about 7 hrs of work to repair the damage from a guy too lazy to use the air to blow out his pad once every panel or so. ya that 30 seconds sure kills time on the job. you don't just have to use a spur. I bet 25-30% of my work is repairing damage caused by detail shops, usually black vehicles too. make sure you take all the polish off before letting it go in the sun people if you cut polish... wash it after a serious cut polish even before waxing if you have to (I use a water based cut polish ;) )... read, learn. hell there are free training videos out there on product use, or a good supplier like automagic will send a rep out to demo the products for you.

I also, until tonight, did some mobile security work. I've done it for many many companies over the years. I got injured a while back and needed something to make money while I rehabbed. 2 months of graveyards... yukk. I am too old for graveyards now. Last night, I am doing first patrol. I check the building and go in to sign the log. it's my first and last stop everyday. takes oh 7 mins to walk the perimeter and check things. it's the olympic committee building so pretty important. funny enough I found lights out in a bad place going to parking, and mentioned it. as I am signing the book, the guy starting after me drives up to the front door to come sign the book for his rounds.... well #1 he never even walked around the building so he's allready coming to falsify a statement, and he can see me and knows I do it then, and would rather just play stupid and get it done rather than oh maybe coming back (our office was in the same building)... it makes you wonder how many patrols guys like that do in the same fashion. it's not hard work, but there are so many people like that now. I remember it used to be a profession when I started, now 20+ yrs later, it's hard to get $3/hr more than I made then...
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07.29.2008, 07:54 AM

Well I'm one of those idiots tonight. I just hooked up a battery to a velineon the wrong *beeping* way. So the battery still works but is most likely damaged. The velineon esc is toast. Any one know how much it will cost to have Traxxas repair this ESC after this act of stupidity?


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07.29.2008, 08:37 AM

I believe you are witnessing what is commonly referred to as diffusion of responsibility, or at least something close to it.

Standards have dropped quite a bit, there's no question about that. When you combine that with the desire for peer validation, you get idiots.
   
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07.29.2008, 08:50 AM

this is a great thread. I have said for a long time that COMMON SENSE IS NOT VERY COMMON! I see people do the dumbest things and not even know it. We all do some pretty stupid things sometimes but actually realizing and correcting it is a different story. Most things though can be avoided all together with a little, and yes i said little, common sense. ex.. yellow means caution the light is going to turn red. Now a lady a block away will try and make the light and t-bone some poor person proceeding on the green. Another one of my buttons is when people ask the stupid questions. We were told there is no such thing as a stupid question but I'm here to tell there is. Nobody is perfect, including me, but common sense is needed badly in the world now days.


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07.29.2008, 09:38 AM

The "death of common sense" is something that eternally bugs me these days too. I could go on and on, but I won't, because I get too worked up about it. Grrrr.
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07.29.2008, 09:45 AM

IMO, the problem is that a majority of the people only average. Exceptionalism is the exception.

I do think its a bit of rose colored nostalgia to think it was ever different. I work with some highly educated and intelligent people, and its shocking to see how many are incompetant or barely competant in thier jobs. Alot of really good people also, but some... damn.. don't know what they are thinking a lot of the time.

Its hard to be really good at something. Its takes talent, training and a desire to do things well. Not everyone can have this.

OTOH, if I ever worry about doing something different or new, thinking that everyone already doing it is going to be so good at it it would be hard for me to come in and succeed, I just remember just how many people are not that good at what they are doing, and I have a pretty good shot of doing well if I'm determined. Seems like half the challenge in life is just having the balls to try something.

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I do think its a bit of rose colored nostalgia to think it was ever different.

Its hard to be really good at something. Its takes talent, training and a desire to do things well. Not everyone can have this.
I agree. I was gonna go off on how people used to work harder and there were more real pioneers(read: smart people with confidence), but then again if you consider population growth, I wonder if it is the same percentage.

I do think that people need to start adopting the idea that if they don't devise a solution, nobody else will as opposed to the opposite(someone somewhere is taking care of it) mentality.

People need to start really earning their clout instead of freeloading so much of the time. You know, show that you give a damn.
   
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07.29.2008, 12:28 PM

lol have any of you seen the movie "Idiocracy" with Luke Wilson.... explains it all rofl link
   
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07.29.2008, 12:44 PM

well ,im only 15, and don't have a "job" but me and my dad repair snowmobiles (we had 31 1/2, now only 23) and make money from that, but i don't cut corners and try to put all i can into it, but this is a rare case where, i can not sit and press buttons all day er somthin, i need to be doing something or else im done. i had a job (real one ) watering plants at lowes. wow easiest job ever, hold a hose. i lasted 4 weeks. only because my friend worked with me and we'd always goofed off and just walked around lowes
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well ,im only 15, and don't have a "job" but me and my dad repair snowmobiles (we had 31 1/2, now only 23) and make money from that, but i don't cut corners and try to put all i can into it, but this is a rare case where, i can not sit and press buttons all day er somthin, i need to be doing something or else im done. i had a job (real one ) watering plants at lowes. wow easiest job ever, hold a hose. i lasted 4 weeks. only because my friend worked with me and we'd always goofed off and just walked around lowes
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heard over the intercom @ Loews

Trev.....report to your work station !

haha, well ok you wanted it, it happen 4 times. i told my boss i was at the bathroom (i was looking at wood )
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