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10.16.2008, 04:48 PM

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From a manufacturing point of view to developing a completely new platform is far more costly/time consuming then simply changing/tweaking an existing model. The change in tooling to occompany a completely new model (ie. developing new molds for the plastic parts and the many other processes in manufacturing that would have to be changed) would be very expensive, while making just a vew more molds to change an existling platform would be a much quicker and cost effective alternative. These two benefits will be passed on to the consumer in the time it takes to be released and the initial cost of the product.
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10.16.2008, 04:52 PM

donyt get me wrong, i like change as much as the next guy. Just pointing out that there are reason's why this happens. I too wish it would have been a new rockcrawler platform, as it probably would have been my next buy, The summet, however cool with its new feartures, is just a little to similar to my E-revo for me to go and get one.


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10.16.2008, 04:53 PM

I think it sucks.

*new shell with LEDs = lame
*locking diffs = how long do you reckon those will last before they strip or bust?
*beadlock wheels and funky tyres = nice, but nothing amazing

I agree with those that have said its just a re-hashed Erevo pretending to be a trail truck/ crawler; crawlers are solid axle with a minimal chassis, trail trucks are most often scale vehicles and not big lumpy MTs.

Nice try traxxas, but you fail.
   
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10.16.2008, 05:50 PM

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What do you mean "traxxas turning into Losi"? Traxxas has rehashed most of their current line more than Losi has, and for longer.

My opinion, I like the summit. I really don't do much for trail running and i don't do crawling, but i can appricate the engineering to bring it to market.
What I mean is that Losi has used the same basic platform for many vehicles. For example, the LST2, Aftershock, and Raminator are all VERY similar and have the same basic design/layout. Same with their 1/18 models, MLST, Mini Raminator, etc. And now Traxxas uses the same platform to make another similar vehicle. Traxxas did this much better than Losi did however in my opinion, as they actually made some pretty big changes... just not as many as I'd like to see.


   
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10.16.2008, 05:56 PM

hmm, looks very familiar.



I'll say is fun to semi crawl with this one but a spool and low gears doesn't make a rock crawler. But still very capable in uneven terrain.
I also was expecting a solid axle crawler but for those like me that didn't like the looks of the solid axles is a good idea and is very tempting.


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10.16.2008, 09:00 PM

yeah. I like having more options for my e-revo. When I get bored with it the way it is, I can go for the short arm slash set-up, or a high rise summit. I like the options that will keep me from getting bored. Its a great all-in-one platform, but I think it would be cooler if they called it that. The e-revo; The e-revo short course; The e-revo crawler Ed.

I dont know crap about poop when it comes to crawlers, but all the (good) ones I have seen keep their weight really low. Have independant motors for the front and back ends. Have the ability to steer the front and rear independantly.....I donno, I gree with most. The summit isnt really a good lookin crawler to me.


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10.16.2008, 09:43 PM

Personally I think the locking diffs are cool, the locking rings are steel so they should hold up for awhile. The good thing about traxxas releasing new trucks based off the same chassis is just as hoovartid said, when you get bored with what you have you can change out a few parts and have a whole new truck. Also it's good for the consumer as many of the parts are already available, so when you break it the day you get it you don't hanve to wait for parts!


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10.16.2008, 09:59 PM

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10.16.2008, 10:09 PM

compair pics?



after seeing some of the replies.....I think its important that you know....I just copied and pasted those pics together.

I used the front skid plate as a point of size reference, but I can guarantee its NOT perfect. It was done in MS paint program.

Those trucks may not be that different in size.


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10.16.2008, 10:11 PM

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10.16.2008, 10:17 PM

Didn't look that big in the video! Wow thats a lot bigger!


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10.16.2008, 11:51 PM

I've got a pre-order in on one right now, but I'm not sure if I will follow through with it and actually buy one.

They don't advertise it as a crawler, just an extreme conditions monster truck. Those tires don't look like they'd be too bad, and I definitely like the wheels. The brushed motor will keep things smooth and cheap, you can get a sensored BL crawler setup if you wanted more power but that'll cost you. The 4 channel radio is nice, other than the switch for the diffs (looks like a cheap RadioShack switch to me). I'm definitely worried about durability. The new shafts should hold up better than the old ones, but you're putting a lot of stress on them with a setup like that. The remote-locking diffs is really the defining point of these things though. This is the only RTR that I know of that comes with them and it will help a lot when the going gets rough. Too bad they insist on keeping their diff design, go with a 1/8th style diff (6-8 spiders including outputs, tough plastic, big screws, etc.). I sold my Revo because there were too many weaknesses, weak diffs were the biggest issue for me. Those battery bays are also too small to be running a big lipo...the more I think about it the more I think I should cancel my order

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10.16.2008, 11:54 PM

Wow, that thing is going to be huge
   
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10.17.2008, 12:07 AM

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compair pics?



after seeing some of the replies.....I think its important that you know....I just copied and pasted those pics together.

I used the front skid plate as a point of size reference, but I can guarantee its NOT perfect. It was done in MS paint program.

Those trucks may not be that different in size.
Based in the tire comparison that looks to be accurate. The Summit tires are stated to be 7 inch which is 1 inch more than the talons.


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10.17.2008, 12:30 AM

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Based in the tire comparison that looks to be accurate. The Summit tires are stated to be 7 inch which is 1 inch more than the talons.
The summit tires look like the Tmaxx 3.3 tires, they are about the same size. I think the pic is close enough to see that its really bigger


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