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Your truggy is supposed to be fast. Is anything binding on the drive train? My BPP with the 1521/1Y had an issue like this and it was my fault as I forgot to shim the diff. The ESC (Schulze 40.160) got hot which is kind of unheard of. As for the fan, you can mount your ESC so the heat sink is not facing down and that way it'll allow you to mount the fans.
I'll check for binding, but all the diffs and things were shimmed pretty well before i started. I'll check again though, it should just roll freely when i push it along right?

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I have a question- what pinion are you running with the 42t? spur gear- I think I saw an 11t item back along?
I'm running a 16t pinion, on the calculator has an adjusted speed of 75mph. Unfortunately this is the only BL motor i have, im going to bring the laptop out with me today hopefully (if the weather stays good) and tweak some things and see how that affects the performance.

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Do you have the timing set right? Do you have the ESC set for race mode (I think that's one of the setting, it's been a while lol)?
For the timing setting, i've just got it on auto. Im not to sure what the 10*, 20* etc. would do so i just left it for the first run. What timing do you guys normally run? There is an option for race mode, but that means you cannot use the LVC feature, so i didnt want to risk my lipos. I'll check the timing and frequency and things like that today.

I was thinkning last night, cool motor and hot ESC = overgeared right? But if it is normal motor and hot ESC, does that mean the problem lies somewhere else? Im going to solder the ESC and motor together today to get rid of some dodgy connections i have there and see how that goes.

cheers for the help guys, i'll keep you posted on the testing.
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11.24.2008, 09:12 PM

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I'll check for binding, but all the diffs and things were shimmed pretty well before i started. I'll check again though, it should just roll freely when i push it along right?



I'm running a 16t pinion, on the calculator has an adjusted speed of 75mph. Unfortunately this is the only BL motor i have, im going to bring the laptop out with me today hopefully (if the weather stays good) and tweak some things and see how that affects the performance.



For the timing setting, i've just got it on auto. Im not to sure what the 10*, 20* etc. would do so i just left it for the first run. What timing do you guys normally run? There is an option for race mode, but that means you cannot use the LVC feature, so i didnt want to risk my lipos. I'll check the timing and frequency and things like that today.

I was thinkning last night, cool motor and hot ESC = overgeared right? But if it is normal motor and hot ESC, does that mean the problem lies somewhere else? Im going to solder the ESC and motor together today to get rid of some dodgy connections i have there and see how that goes.

cheers for the help guys, i'll keep you posted on the testing.
jordan
That is definatley not the right gearing to be running on grass and you definetaly 100% sure overloaded the ESC. That type of gearing is supposed to be used for speed runs on asphalt. Change your gearing. I use a 17T pinion in my BPP mainly because it has a huge 65T spur and I'm geared for 34mph, but with tire ballooning it went 46mph radar confirmed. This is why I asked you if you had any plans on making a single motor mount so you could adjust to make a smaller pinion fit.
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11.24.2008, 09:29 PM

Ahh i see, I'm thinking about how to make one, hopefully i can find a friend who has access to a CNC machine Even with overloading the ESC, shouldn't it still have been fast? Im going to try and tweak some things here and there. How does the motor timing work? I have it auto at the moment but im not sure what changes will do?
   
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Ahh i see, I'm thinking about how to make one, hopefully i can find a friend who has access to a CNC machine Even with overloading the ESC, shouldn't it still have been fast? Im going to try and tweak some things here and there. How does the motor timing work? I have it auto at the moment but im not sure what changes will do?
Not on grass. You're luccky none of the FETs blew due to the high stress you put on them. You have to find a way to use at least a 51T spur with a 11T pinion to run on 5S or you have to use 3S lipos. Auto timing is fine or 0 degrees as you have the D wound Neu motors. One thing good about the MGM is that the ESC slows down when too much load is put on the ESC. So you were probably running on less then 50% power.
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Ahh ok, lucky then, ill look into another motor mount. Good to know theres still some speed left in it
   
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Ahh ok, lucky then, ill look into another motor mount. Good to know theres still some speed left in it
You should've been flying, but on grass your ESC just went into reduced power mode.
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11.24.2008, 09:49 PM

Starting to make sense...


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You should've been flying, but on grass your ESC just went into reduced power mode.
It did slow down even more just before i decided to stop, i thoguht it might have been the batteries, but it must have been the ESC. Starting to make sense... .........
   
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