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02.28.2005, 05:23 PM
So when you install the BL system, what's the most typical way to wire it up?
Here's what I was thinking:
Batteries connected to the ESC via 12 gauge wire with Deans or Powerpole low-resistance connectors. Then the ESC connected to the BL motor with the 12 gauge wire just soldered directly to the ESC and motor.
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02.28.2005, 05:25 PM
ask mike, im not sure about wiring :(
The problem with nitro's these days are that they arent brushless... LOL
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02.28.2005, 05:27 PM
you got it megazone - i use deans connectors - havent failed me yet - :)
Hows that "Hope and Change" working out for Ya???
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02.28.2005, 05:28 PM
i heard about p[eople having problems with deans, could you give me a website with a good price for deans?
The problem with nitro's these days are that they arent brushless... LOL
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02.28.2005, 05:38 PM
RCBoyz.com lists the Male 2 pack for $2.82 and Female for $1.99. I've bought a lot of stuff from them and have been really happy with their service. They ship USPS priority mail, and I usually get my stuff within 3-4 business days.
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02.28.2005, 06:13 PM
ok, thanks.
The problem with nitro's these days are that they arent brushless... LOL
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03.01.2005, 08:31 PM
I have the Dean's plugs as well. I haven't had any trouble with dean's stuff and recommend it.
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03.01.2005, 09:36 PM
i personally don't like the deans, or should i say the way most people set them up. Usually, most setup the wiring using a sorta Y-harness thing. Then that leads to one deans plug per battery. This setup works great, but if you use a schulze esc or you want maximum performance, you should go with a different setup that shortens the wiring. This insures maximum performance, neatness, power, speed, and efficiency. And is basically the only way to qualify for schulzes esc warrenty when useing side by side packs.
So, this is the kinda setup i would use
http://www.geocities.com/kezard2000/1897.jpg
I use 4mm gold connectors as connectors, they wear out over about 2 months, but they are more conductive than the deans i believe.
I love the setup, and when charging i just use the alligator clips.
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03.01.2005, 09:38 PM
Well, I think I found out why a properly crimped connection is better than a soldered connection.
In a properly crimped connection, the copper strands will shift around to achieve the smallest cross-sectional area as the crimping tool clamps down. Then the full compression of the crimping tool will cause them to deform and fill in the void spaces, making the the cross-sectional area nearly homogeneously copper with little to no air voids between the wire connections. Thus, all the copper wire strands then act like a single copper wire.
In a soldered connection, there is no compression to physically force the wires to align themselves. Likewise, the solder will fill the voids between the wire strands, creating a heterogeneous cross section of copper wire and solder. This mix of materials is not as electrically efficient as that of only copper.
That's what I understand based on information that the Anderson Power sales rep sent to me.
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03.01.2005, 09:45 PM
Supermaxx89 - I generally wire my dean's similar to your diagram. The difference is on my setups, the wire that connects the rear of your batteries in your diagram is run from dean's to dean's. basically, it accomplishes the same thing. Positive from the controller to a positive Deans, Negative from the controller to the negative of another Dean's, and a wire connecting the two Dean's plugs together (positive to negative). No Harness required, and the batteries can be charged like normal.
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03.01.2005, 09:54 PM
Call me leo gets please;) J/K (unless you want to)
alright i see. I just assumed you ran the y harness setup as for thats how you directed us to wire it all up in the stick thread how to program your BK controller.
May i ask why you choose deans over 4mm gold? Deans are more weight, and i know you hate that;)
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03.01.2005, 09:59 PM
I thought I mentioned the wiring similar to the way I just described it. I have actually done it both ways, but prefer the absense of the adapter(wiring like I just described). You are correct when you say I hate the weight, but I may dislike soldering even more, so I choose the dean's. They last for a long time and the gram or so of extra weight (if it is even this) doesn't slow me down! Any weight difference (4 gold plugs vs 2 deans) is pretty minimal.
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03.01.2005, 10:05 PM
you make a good point! I actually don't find the 4mm that hard to install, all i do is soak the wire in solder, then heat up the connector, and since gold is extremley conductive, the heat is tranferred efficiently enough to where all you do is put the soldering iron on the connector, then push the solder soaked wire right in the connector. You probably already know that though:)
Do the deans wear out ever? (i know everything wears out eventually, so don't pull one of those on me :cool: ). I ask this because i know there are indeed spring type things in the connectors, and i'm wondering if the wear out due to excessive heat.
Oh ya, by the way, with you being the guru of this forum, have you ever posted pictures of your truck anywhere?
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03.01.2005, 10:14 PM
Leo,
The heat is exactly what wears out the plug type connectors (which is why on the Lehner motors, the plugs must be changed frequently - they lose tension from the heat). Of course the dean's will eventually wear out, but they last for years.
The plugs (Dean's or Gold) are easy to install, and will last longer if you keep the "spring type things" cool while you solder the wire (wrap in damp cloth).
I have a picture in the gallery (yellow buggy bodied e-maxx) of ONE of my e-maxxes. Good point, though. I should get some pictures of my other maxxes up too.
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03.01.2005, 10:21 PM
ya, knowing that everything on your maxx is most likley setup ideally, it would answer alot of peoples questions and give them some sort of idea of how their emaxx should look.leo
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