e-revo or savage flux?

[e-mike]

for me...e-revo all the way....just look my signature

[timaneli]

ok, so in case of going to the revo, what is the best?
a conversion of a revo 3.3 platinum, or a e-revo?
is more resistant,durable and lighter on weight a converted one or the electric one??
what do you guy´s think and give me your experiences with these cars!!

[JThiessen]

I dont know that the "options" on a platinum are going to make it more durable. You can probably purchase the "durable" upgrades that you need for less than it costs to upgrade to the platinum - but I dont know that for certain.

[TexasSP]

I have run both the e-revo chassis and the 3.3 conversion and the e-revo is superior in my opinion because it was built for the job. The design of the chassis and integrated skid plate make it just as strong (if not stronger) as the aluminum chassis. The fit and finish having the purpose built chassis just cannot be beat. It was well thought out and designed with only one exception: I would have liked a little more room in the battery trays as they restrict your options. However, for me, this is still not a deal killer. The new Savage Flux looks to have small battery trays as well. Hopefully we can get some good measurments on them soon.

[JThiessen]

The battery trays on the E-revo were the deal killer for me. I purchased a chassis just to see if I could mod it to make room for bigger batteries, and so far no luck. I like having the ability to make my battery trays on my conversion any size I need. Right now I can run dual 5S - if I had one of Lutach's ESC's. Spring dampening is another of the downfalls of the entire Revo line. I'm at the next to last spring on mine just to keep it from dragging on the ground. And nobody makes an aftermarket shock for it yet.

The trays on the Flux look to be removable, and made in a way that would make it easy to make aftermarket boxes for. So far, the best price I found on it is on Tower. I'm going to preorder it here in the next few days. That FM radio still bugs me though. I'll just have to pop for another spektrum reciever.

[rcoverboard]

See, I don't really think it is fair to say. The Flux isn't out yet, so no one really knows how it is going to do.

[TexasSP]

Originally Posted by JThiessen

I'm at the next to last spring on mine just to keep it from dragging on the ground. And nobody makes an aftermarket shock for it yet.

There are some aftermarket options available.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...=SHOCK&S3=&S4=

http://www.stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bi...umb=on&smode=0

[JThiessen]

Well, maybe I have unfairly listened to the nay sayers about integy products, but I purposely ignored them as a supplier of an improved shock, until such time that I hear from a reputable source that they are a good product.
IMHO, with the advent of the E-Revo, there will likely be more aftermarket demands for better shocks as our rigs (the electrics) seem to have more issues with them than the nitro version does.

At this point, mine work. But if I get any heavier, I'll need to reconsider those.

[TexasSP]

I have heard tell, and from what I have seen in my limited experience with it, that the newer integy products have gotten much better. I am tempted to put a set of the new integy shocks on my e-maxx with the thicker rods as a test. I am willing to give anyone a second chance. I do not think it would hurt any to try the heavier weight springs they offer though.

[hoovhartid]

well, I cant speak of the flux (not that anyone can) but I love my e-revo. I have it set up with the MMM and a Tekno 1515/1Y---basicly the same as the e-revo BL edition will be. Man, this is the best truck I have owned. It is by far more versitile than any other MT on the market. Using just the pushrod placement you can go from a slammed on road dragster, to a high rise "crawler" (use that term loosely-summit comes to mind). But my point is, you will have alot of versitility choosing the e-revo.
I too was turned off at first by the battery tray limitations, but Now that I have fit 4s 8000's and 6s 5000's and actually run the truck on both...I think anything bigger would actually hurt the performance of the truck...too much weight. My runtimes have been awesome as well.
I'm not sorry I went with the e-revo. Its a great MT. They have great support and plenty of parts local and online.

[pedeboi364]

IMHO integy's large scale (1/10 and bigger) stuff is great. I have their shocks and bulkhead on my pede and they all offer great performance... also, i think you should wait for the BL E-revo to come out, buy it on tower getting $65 off with the coupon and upgrading as you go... jsut my 2 cents!

[Finnster]

I have had a Erevo (2 diff nitro conv) for over two years, and a Savvy XL for the last several mos. The Flux looks like a XL spec Savage X made BL.

For the money, the Savage is a much nicer and beefier truck all around. The XL dogbones are huge, the TVPs are strong, and everything is easily accessible. The diffs are strong, are 6 gears in a alu cup, and if somehow you are breaking them, Cen Genesis diff will fit, which are super heavy duty w/ massive teeth. The Revos are small 4 gear setups in a plastic cup. The Savvy has easy access diffs.
The revo, esp with the plastic sliders requires nearly a total dissemble of the suspension to get at the diffs. IE remove bumpers/body mounts, 3 thru pins for sliders, rockers and/or pushrods and shocks. Then, due to the 4gear design, insanely heavy oils need to be used to tune the diffs. The shock ends tend to pop off easy, and must be upgraded. The steel pushrods and turnbuckles bent easy for me, but the 7075 stuff, or Ti rods worked well. Arms break often enough as well. I've bent a number of the steel rocker posts. Sliders stretch out and the TRX Revo CVDs are garbage. Needs an alu str arm w/ single servos. I hate the pillow ball design, and they've popped out a number of times (tho I understand revos now come with steel retainers to help w/ this.) On the upside, I've never broke a body mount nor a bulkhead, bumper or bent the chassis. Overall its a reasonably durable truck, but does slowly widdle down the wallet w/ constant little breakages and needed upgrades.

The savage tranny can be opened in 7 screws, 4 on sides and 3 from top, and leaves dogbones and tranny bottom half in place. To open the Revo tranny: 2 thrupins for sliders, 4 for the skid guard and tranny mount, completely removing tranny, then at least 6 for the case to open. The Sav sounds like not that many less screws, but they are all together and very very easy to get at, and the top of the tranny case then just plucks out. You don't even have to pick up the truck. The revo is flipping it over, pulling stuff apart, jimmying out the tranny, and then having the whole thing come apart. Now this is the two nitro trannies, so YMMV, but the Savage has metal gears, while the Revo was plastic, and I shredded the plastic gears often enough.

Lastly, shocks. Beyond what I already said, the revo shocks are a pain to tune. They are too small IMO, and even the heaviest springs are a bit soft. I used the silver long travel springs, and the butt was still saggy. They are a pain to remove as well compared to a more conventional upright design. OTOH the Sav has BB shocks, and can be made to use truggy shocks or even the massive LST shocks. There is more shock oil in one LST shock than all 4 GTR shocks of the Revo.

Yeah, the revo will out handle a Savage, but a truggy will out handle a Revo... but all depends what you want to do with it. The savage is a proven hardcore basher, and I have been able to drive thru rough stuff I was sure Id get stuck in, but the XL keeps going. Like a field of 18" high grass and shrub. Just powered thru and kept going. W/o a doubt my Revo would be stuck. The Revo is pretty good once you upgrade a number of things, and are willing to live w/ other stuff. Savage racing? Eh... but really having a part time basher and racer is hard to balance. To be a good racer it needs to be setup right for the track. That isn't necc good for bashing (like a low ride hieght and soft shocks, etc.) Do you really want to be changing it back and forth all the time, or if not, do you want to take your nicely tuned racer out to a construction lot and start jumping it, crashing into ruts and rocks, and generally abusing it? Prolly not.

Not trying to bash one or the other, but I've had quite a bit of experience between the two (esp Erevos) and just giving my honest critique.

[JThiessen]

Good thoughts, as always, finnster. I'm definitley looking forward to trying out the Savvy. I just sold off all my traxxas stuff (Except for the E-Revo Conversion), and am looking forward to having some new blood in my fleet. I have never purchased a brand new RC, and this will be my first.