A lot of fake UE stuff!!!!

Well my silly a** paid $165 for mine, and I'm still waiting to hear something back from Billy - I never used them, barely looked at them til I got back in country and read about this. His ebay ads alwaysn list a "no questions asked" return policy and I intend to get my money back, at least thats what I've asked for.

Just about 2 weeks before I got these, there was a set on ebay from another seller that were prob real that I didn't win. My last min bid of $275 was sadly outclassed by the $345 that won. The rarity and the demand make these go for that kind of loot. I'm guessing it was this kind of cash that got Billy started. I would've never bought these if I thought for one sec they were not UE. I was in too much of a hurry to get things together to leave (going out of counrty to work for 3 months) and just wasn't paying enough attention.

Pardon me, but I'll believe MM about cranking out new setbacks and high impacts when I see them in the store for sale. His last venture, monoblocks, took a long time to sell. When he starts remembering that and pricing raw material to buy, I wonder if we'll ever really see any.

I'll be happy to be proved totally wrong about this too!!

[JThiessen]

Thought on this:
I read this thread, and Billytrucks post in the General section. I looked up his ads on Ebay, just to see what he is selling. I have never used UE stuff, or purchased anything from either Billytrucks, or UE, and dont intend to. But, I do have some experinence with aluminum, and business and patent "stuff".

Reading between the lines of Billys post, he is stating that "he" has never made parts, thus denying any responsibility for the quality of the parts. But, he did not win any points with me in that he went on with the claims that UE owns no patents on the products, etc. What he stated is in fact correct, but...This leads me to believe that he is aware that he sold parts that were configured like UE's, but were not. This in itself is not a crime, or even wrong. However, if he in fact sold them as UE parts, knowing full well that they were not, that is a crime, and is incredibly wrong.

UE's claim that they are inferior also does not carry much weight with me. Yes, the machining quality is horrid - but that in itself does not mean they are going to break on that first jump. A monkey with a dremel could produce a finish better than those shown in the pictures in this thread (well, not really, but I'm just being dramatic). Also, nothing in the pictures actually proves that they are a cast aluminum. Yes, IMHO, I would guess that they are cast, but I'd need to cut one in half to put any money on it.

I think Billy is going to be in a world of hurt if UE actually has any documentation that he sold those as UE parts. His post here proves to me that he knows they werent. Hate to see people do this kind of stuff.

[ssspconcepts]

This may not be exactly "on topic" but I will throw it out there anyway...

If you look at all of Mike's parts, you will notice that he machines "RC-Monster" directly onto the part. Fastlane Machine also marks their products with their name. That makes it a lot easier to prove what they did and did not manufacture. It also provides some protection when/if somebody tries to counterfeit their work...because as someone else has mentioned...misrepresentation is a crime.

If Robin/UE starts making more parts, I hope he marks them. That way if somebody were to make counterfeits with "UE" stamped/machined into them, then it would be impossible to give the "I just didn't know they were fakes" routine...well okay...they might get away with it once.

In all honesty, marking your work just makes good business sense.