Speed Passion VS Mamba Monster - RC-Monster Forums

killajb · 06:44 PM

+1 on comments from Marcus

I got into a debate on another forum regarding the Speed Passion 1/8 system. The supporting arugument was that 4s is "the standard" now. Also, "why would anyone want to run 6s anyway?" was another comeback. So for 6s capability : Advantage Castle

Obviously we all want reliability in an electric conversion first and foremost. Higher voltage setups allow for lower current draw for the same given power output (ie. more efficient).

After reaping gobs of power from brushless/lipo at will, I think the second matter of importance is the ability to control this power and put it to good use. Castle offers this ability with the Castle Link. Speed Passion is supposed to run in Hybrid-Mode, where it starts out as a sensored system and can change to sensorless.. If that's the case, then it will be interesting to see how this works out. I'll be easy and call this EVEN, giving Speed Passion the benefit of the doubt with this hybrid mode thing.

Lastly, with any system there's a chance of failure or heaven forbid.. abuse. That's where customer support comes in. I haven't worked with anyone from Speed Passion yet, but regardless all they can ever do is match Castle in this category. Hands down, CC has the best customer service I've seen out there. Advantage: Castle

Price would be a bonus point I guess.. We all want to save a few bucks. And the MMM can be had for a bit less than Speed Passion at this point. So.. bonus:Castle

lincpimp · 05.05.2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by killajb

"why would anyone want to run 6s anyway?" was another comeback.

Sounds like you were arguing with Jason from maxamps...

starscream · 05.06.2009, 05:49 AM

Wow, Do you guys work for Castle or what?
Has anyone here actually owned or run the Speed Passion Esc? If not, then your opinion doesn't hold much water...

I've owned MANY ESC's including the Novak HV, MMM and the Speed Passion ESC's.

The Speed Passion is my favorite so far. This Esc is provided by a US distributor so you do NOT have to send it to China for repairs. It comes with a hand held program module with LCD display and can be programed and updated via the PC just like the MMM or the RX8. The SP Esc handles 4S like nobodies business and will run sensored OR sensorless motors.

My 2 cents... the Speed Passion Esc has more features than any other Esc on the market today so it's the best bang for your buck for 4S racing.

lutach · 05.06.2009, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by starscream

Wow, Do you guys work for Castle or what?
Has anyone here actually owned or run the Speed Passion Esc? If not, then your opinion doesn't hold much water...

I've owned MANY ESC's including the Novak HV, MMM and the Speed Passion ESC's.

The Speed Passion is my favorite so far. This Esc is provided by a US distributor so you do NOT have to send it to China for repairs. It comes with a hand held program module with LCD display and can be programed and updated via the PC just like the MMM or the RX8. The SP Esc handles 4S like nobodies business and will run sensored OR sensorless motors.

My 2 cents... the Speed Passion Esc has more features than any other Esc on the market today so it's the best bang for your buck for 4S racing.

The best bang for your buck would be the manufacturers version, the Hobbywing 80A 4S, so basically you just wasted some $$$, but it's your money. The 150A 6S version is another option and it still is cheaper then the Speed Passion branded 4S only ESC. The RX8, MMM and the Hobbywing 150A 6S will also handle 4S lipos. Now the repair thing, even though Speed Pasion is distributed in the US and like you said the ESC doesn't need to be sent to China by the consumer, but all the defective ESC still goes back to China for repair or replacement.

starscream · 05.06.2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lutach

The best bang for your buck would be the manufacturers version, the Hobbywing 80A 4S, so basically you just wasted some $$$, but it's your money. The 150A 6S version is another option and it still is cheaper then the Speed Passion branded 4S only ESC. The RX8, MMM and the Hobbywing 150A 6S will also handle 4S lipos. Now the repair thing, even though Speed Pasion is distributed in the US and like you said the ESC doesn't need to be sent to China by the consumer, but all the defective ESC still goes back to China for repair or replacement.

Let's compare apples to apples. The 80A "Manufacturers version" doesn't have the same specs as the SP Esc and it doesn't come with the LCD programer. I'd rather spend some extra money and not have to deal with sending repairs to China and I "feel" better knowing I'm dealing with a US dealer who will take care of warranties. With that said, the SP Esc is a better bang for your buck in my book. If you want to roll the dice and deal with China, bye all means have at it.

lutach · 05.06.2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by starscream

Let's compare apples to apples. The 80A "Manufacturers version" doesn't have the same specs as the SP Esc and it doesn't come with the LCD programer. I'd rather spend some extra money and not have to deal with sending repairs to China and I "feel" better knowing I'm dealing with a US dealer who will take care of warranties. With that said, the SP Esc is a better bang for your buck in my book. If you want to roll the dice and deal with China, bye all means have at it.

No wonder Schumacher can charge what they do, they have people like you baking them up. Man get your facts straight. Schumacher will eventually send the ESCs to China anyways. I can have Hobbywing make my own ESC too and over rate them a little to have people like you fall for it.

littlegiant · 05.06.2009, 03:32 PM

Is it true that the MMM is around 5mph slower than the HW150A esc on the same setup?

Anyway to fix it?

starscream · 05.06.2009, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by lutach

No wonder Schumacher can charge what they do, they have people like you baking them up. Man get your facts straight. Schumacher will eventually send the ESCs to China anyways. I can have Hobbywing make my own ESC too and over rate them a little to have people like you fall for it.

It's obvious you don't know who you're talking to but in any case berating someone isn't going to change their mind. There are thousands of companies that sell items that are licensed and re-badged as their own product.
Why not take it a step further and forgoe RCM and all other retailers and just buy straight from the manufacturer. Hell, if it were up to guys like you, there would be no RCM or other popular retailers out there.