Great review jzemaxx I have been following this thread waiting for somekind of confirmation that these HW motors/ESC are a good alternative.I bought sometime back a Bidproduct Motor and looking at the motor you would swear it was a quality motor.I tried this BP motor and after 20 minutes the motor just stopped.It was a 2600kv motor on 3s with a MMMv3.It ended up cracking the stator/magnet. Since then I stayed away from these types of motors.I found the Hobbywing motor seperately here for sale
http://hobbiesbp.com