first look on xcelorin 1700kv-motor

[emaxxnitro]

I guess the best motors are as followed
1. Plettenburg
2. Lmt
3. Neu
4. Hacker
5. Ccneu
6. Losi
7. Feigao
8. Bid product
9. Hobbycity

[TexasSP]

There is a big difference between products made in China by a European/American company vs. cheap Chinese clones reverse engineered by the Chinese and completely overseen by the Chinese. The Chinese tend to have a "it's good enough" attitude to quality and engineering whereas when they are strictly overseen by the European/American ownership that way of operation is not allowed.

[SpEEdyBL]

Originally Posted by emaxxnitro

I guess the best motors are as followed
1. Plettenburg
2. Lmt
3. Neu
4. Hacker
5. Ccneu
6. Losi
7. Feigao
8. Bid product
9. Hobbycity

Sorry, I hate to see motors ranked like this especially when it is poorly constructed and based off information that is lacking. You even forgot Medusa, which is light years better than Feigao. It is very debatable whether the CC Neu is any worse than the original neu, and there is really not much evidence to be able to separate any of the top three, since not very many have had two of either at the same time to report on.

For the losi motor, Losi sells a heatsink that clamps right on with screws. FYI, the Losi motor has similar internals compared to the the 1515 Neus. Both are 4 pole, 12 slot.

It shouldn't be the location of manufacturing that causes motors to be inefficient. It's the design. Its the variation from motor to motor that you get with cheap manufacturing, and it is that which causes bad reputations. I've had couple decent feigao motors and some bad ones.

[crazyjr]

Originally Posted by emaxxnitro

I guess the best motors are as followed
1. Plettenburg
2. Lmt
3. Neu
4. Hacker
5. Ccneu
6. Losi
7. Feigao
8. Bid product
9. Hobbycity

You know you are hardcore if you have had and used at least 4 of those motors 2,3,5,and 7 are mine, any more than 4 is hopeless Linc

[emaxxnitro]

hey guys dont shoot me down!

I guess the best motors are as followed

sorry guy did not mean to tick you off. this was a generalization. i have ran neu, hacker, cc, feiago. based on what others have reported i have a remade list . sorry i compleatly left out medusa .
1. Plettenburg
2. Lmt
3. Neu
4. Ccneu
5. hacker
6. medusa
7. Losi
8. Feigao
9. Bid product
10. Hobbycity

[SpEEdyBL]

It's ok, just misleading to readers.

[emaxxnitro]

well whats your list?

[squeeforever]

Originally Posted by emaxxnitro

hey guys dont shoot me down!
sorry guy did not mean to tick you off. this was a generalization. i have ran neu, hacker, cc, feiago. based on what others have reported i have a remade list . sorry i compleatly left out medusa .
1. Plettenburg
2. Lmt
3. Neu
4. Ccneu
5. hacker
6. medusa
7. Losi
8. Feigao
9. Bid product
10. Hobbycity

I'd probably put Medusa before Hacker...

[Takedown]

I dont think that 2-pole and 4-pole motors whould be in the same column... Should be divided up via poles.

[snellemin]

I would put the Medusa below the Losi motors, based on built qaulity and performance. I'm sorry to say, but my c40L hacker still performs better then the 4800 50 medusa. The c50 hacker runs just as cool as the medusa.

I didn't see the Tekno Neu motors being listed.

[Takedown]

Originally Posted by snellemin

I would put the Medusa below the Losi motors, based on built qaulity and performance. I'm sorry to say, but my c40L hacker still performs better then the 4800 50 medusa. The c50 hacker runs just as cool as the medusa.

I didn't see the Tekno Neu motors being listed.

was just going to say... also dont forget mega.

[nitrostarter]

Originally Posted by Takedown

I dont think that 2-pole and 4-pole motors whould be in the same column... Should be divided up via poles.

I agree, but this whole ranking is a biased system. Its hard to compare apples and oranges. Not all motors are equally and thoroughly test versus each other. And measuring motor quality is opinion-based. Some may say this and others disagree.

With that said, I'd rank this way.
1. Neu, Lehner, Pletts
4. CC/Neu
5. Medusa
6. Hacker
7.
8. Feigao
9.
10.
11. Hobby City

[Takedown]

Based on what Ive seen heres what I think...

2-poles

1. LMT
2. Hacker
3. Feigao
4. BidProduct
5. Hobbycity

4-poles

1. Plettenberg
2. Neu
3. Mega-6-pole
4. Tekin Redline t8's
5. CC15's
6. Losi
7. Medusa

This is just my opinion though...

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by crazyjr

You know you are hardcore if you have had and used at least 4 of those motors 2,3,5,and 7 are mine, any more than 4 is hopeless Linc

HAHA, I have owned the list save for the HC motors and bidproduct. Well, I do have the 5 of the kb45 motors, so I guess i do own a HC motor or two.

Originally Posted by emaxxnitro

well whats your list?

Well, here goes nothing:

1. Plett and Neu seem about tied. I have a feeling the plett if more powerful if you compare the actual rotor and windings, but Neu offer more options for winds and rotor length. Pletts have a nicer looking can and appear to have better quality internals, but no by much. Neu are cheaper here in the US and service is much better. I will also throw the CCNeu motor in here, as it is very nicely made, and with the limited experience I have with them, they perform very well. A diamond in the rough, IMO...

2. Lehner and the Hacker C50 lineup are about tied too. I have more experience with the C50 line, but the designs are identical, and the Hacker c50 motors are super high quality. If you prefer 2 pole over 4 pole (neu, medusa, plett) these are the motors to buy. Pricey, but what do you expect!

3. Medusa/Aveox. Medusa - Can't beat the price, and the QC seems good. I have a few motors, and only had an issue with one. It may have been a lemon, but I did not test enough to get a feel for it. The other motors have performed very well. Not as good as a Neu, but similar. Aveox - Steve Neu worked for aveox, so the motors are very similar. 36mm diamter, and use std threads so kinda weird. Great power, slightly less than a neu of the same length/spec, but I think they are more powerful than a medusa. Hard to find new, so not much point talking about them.

4. Hacker B50. Good motors, but not much better than the Feigaos that are basically clones. Better materials make them more efficient, run cooler. Not worth what Hacker charges for them, but if you get a deal on a used one go for it. 2 pole motors, so they will work with just about any esc.

5. Feigao. Honestly these are not that bad. Sure the magnets let go at higher rpms and they run hot. Ok, so maybe they are not that good, but compared to the even cheaper HC kd motors they are pretty good. Considering the price of a medusa, there is not much point buying these new. The vxl motor fits in here to. All are 2 pole.

6. KB45 L and Xl. Big motors, 30mm m4 bolt pattern, and 6mm shafts. Great deal for the money, and if you can turn the shaft down, or use the small selection of 6mm bore pinions, they will easily outperform any motor that costs even twice as much. They do not run all that hot in any application you would use a 1515 or an xl.

The rest of the motors listed are low end and should be avoided. Not sure about the Losi motor. Not many have tried it and compared it to a neu. Too expensive, IMO.

[Takedown]

Linc you forgot mega?

I cant wait to hear the reveiws on the tekin redline t8 motors.