Speed Passion VS Mamba Monster

[starscream]

Originally Posted by TexasSP

So seriously, tell us who you are. I know lutach, his real name is Luciano and he is from Brasil originally.

Lincpimp is James and he is from the UK originally.

My name is Brian and am from Texas.

I could go on further but you get the point. Lutach has been very forthcoming about who he is and where he stands. Shouldn't you do the same? It's obvious you have some kind of iron in this fire, so why not just by forthcoming and not hide behind the internet.

Hey Brian,
James is the name, RC is the game.
I've been around RCM from very early on. Dafni and I posted our Revo conversions at the same time. His was better looking but mine had a lower CG

Lincpimp knows who I am and I have firsthand knowledge of why he doesn't like maxamps batteries.

I don't post here for posting sake and I don't have a personal agenda. I post information that is factually sound and hopefully helpful. I have been fortunate to be one of the first to try different setups and I have no problems reporting what I experience.

I think anyones iron will get hot if they are publically berated and shown no respect. I don't take others opinions to heart but I won't put up with anyone making personal attacks.

Luciano can say what he wants about SP Esc's or anything else RC but if he’s inclined to make it personal, he better know who he's dealing with before he spouts out some disingenuous rhetoric.

[littlegiant]

Originally Posted by starscream

Hey Brian,
James is the name, RC is the game.
I've been around RCM from very early on. Dafni and I posted our Revo conversions at the same time. His was better looking but mine had a lower CG

Lincpimp knows who I am and I have firsthand knowledge of why he doesn't like maxamps batteries.

I don't post here for posting sake and I don't have a personal agenda. I post information that is factually sound and hopefully helpful. I have been fortunate to be one of the first to try different setups and I have no problems reporting what I experience.

I think anyones iron will get hot if they are publically berated and shown no respect. I don't take others opinions to heart but I won't put up with anyone making personal attacks.

Luciano can say what he wants about SP Esc's or anything else RC but if he’s inclined to make it personal, he better know who he's dealing with before he spouts out some disingenuous rhetoric.

Hi, I am thinking of getting a new esc. Can u list the pros of SP escs over the MMM? I am open to all opinions because I don't own any of the escs. Thanks in advance.

[starscream]

Originally Posted by littlegiant

Hi, I am thinking of getting a new esc. Can u list the pros of SP escs over the MMM? I am open to all opinions because I don't own any of the escs. Thanks in advance.

If you are looking to use a sensored 4S motor than the SP is a good choice.

Both ESC Prices are comparable
Both ESC PC programming and updates are comparable

MMM Pro's over SP
- MMM Can handle up to 6S Lipo VS SP 4S Lipo max
- MMM has a slightly smaller footprint
- MMM has a 5AMP BEC vs SP 3AMP BEC (this won't be an issue unless you plan to run some major current drawing servo's)

SP Pro's over MMM
- SP runs both sensored & sensorless motors (Sensored in dual mode)
- SP comes with a hand held programmer that you can use anywhere without the need of hauling around a laptop
- SP On/Off switch is FAR superior to the MMM switch. The MMM power switch is notorious for switching off when the vehicle takes a hard hit. This has happened to me numerous times and I finally shoegoo'd my MMM switch to the On position. This obviously isn't a hard selling point but a small notch in the belt for the SP.

[starscream]

Oh BTW,
I will be getting a RX8/2050 combo as soon as I can

So I'll be able to make a comparison between all 3 ESC's soon

[littlegiant]

Originally Posted by starscream

If you are looking to use a sensored 4S motor than the SP is a good choice.

Both ESC Prices are comparable
Both ESC PC programming and updates are comparable

MMM Pro's over SP
- MMM Can handle up to 6S Lipo VS SP 4S Lipo max
- MMM has a slightly smaller footprint
- MMM has a 5AMP BEC vs SP 3AMP BEC (this won't be an issue unless you plan to run some major current drawing servo's)

SP Pro's over MMM
- SP runs both sensored & sensorless motors (Sensored in dual mode)
- SP comes with a hand held programmer that you can use anywhere without the need of hauling around a laptop
- SP On/Off switch is FAR superior to the MMM switch. The MMM power switch is notorious for switching off when the vehicle takes a hard hit. This has happened to me numerous times and I finally shoegoo'd my MMM switch to the On position. This obviously isn't a hard selling point but a small notch in the belt for the SP.

Thanks for your response. I am intending to use the esc in a monster truck.
Which esc can handle heat better? Same setup (speed, vehicle, motor, cell count... etc)different esc. Which esc will run cooler?

[starscream]

Originally Posted by littlegiant

Thanks for your response. I am intending to use the esc in a monster truck.
Which esc can handle heat better? Same setup (speed, vehicle, motor, cell count... etc)different esc. Which esc will run cooler?

I have only used the SP Esc in a buggy so I have no data for MT use. Both Esc's run about the same heat in the buggy. Personally, I would recommend running 6S in a MT or Truggy so my vote goes to the MMM for this. The SP Esc should be fine if you plan to run a sensored 4S motor though.

[Haldir]

You guys don't know what your talking about, especially starcream.

You don't know the meaning of power until you get your hands on one of these, and this is just the prototype.

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by Haldir

You guys don't know what your talking about, especially starcream.

You don't know the meaning of power until you get your hands on one of these, and this is just the prototype.

I am chomping at the bit waiting for this to come out. I saw some spy shots of it at RCX but supposedly it was going to take a year to get to the masses. I like all of the moving parts and the non proportional throttle has me stoked! Plus that big heat shield is very sexy.

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by starscream

Lincpimp knows who I am and I have firsthand knowledge of why he doesn't like maxamps batteries.

I remember that! Going back a bit, at least 2 years, huh?!

[starscream]

Originally Posted by lincpimp

I remember that! Going back a bit, at least 2 years, huh?!

Ya, that was quite a while ago. Time really flies.
I ended up buying another crt.5 and then sold it so I could get a RC10 T4

I really think they need a 12 step program for RC

You have a good point about crawlers. It's a must to have a good motor though. I'm sure a HV or purple feigao motor will have cogging issues.

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by starscream

Ya, that was quite a while ago. Time really flies.
I ended up buying another crt.5 and then sold it so I could get a RC10 T4

I really think they need a 12 step program for RC

You have a good point about crawlers. It's a must to have a good motor though. I'm sure a HV or purple feigao motor will have cogging issues.

The 2pole feigaos will lack low end torque. I am using 8+ pole outrunners, between 800-1100kv on 3s lipo and they work very well with the castle escs. I also run a 13.5 novak motor on 2s in a "rock racer" and it has enough control and torque to make it crawler capable. I have a sp 17.5 that I would like to try, but I think the speed may be a bit low. Also have a new hacker 13.5 e40 motor, pretty!

Now I would like to see a decent sensored esc with 3s+ capability in a small footprint capable of 60-80amps cont. And some purpose built sealed can outrunners with high qual materials and a sensor too. Run them sensored only and they would be the ultimate in slow speed control and low speed torque.

[rootar]

Originally Posted by lincpimp

Now I would like to see a decent sensored esc with 3s+ capability in a small footprint capable of 60-80amps cont. And some purpose built sealed can outrunners with high qual materials and a sensor too. Run them sensored only and they would be the ultimate in slow speed control and low speed torque.

sorry to get off topic but

your answer is the tekin RS run an external bec and cap and they are great on 3s and 4s.....ive been running mine in my T4 and slash on multiple different motors (8.5 sensored-2s, 10.5 sensored 2and 3s, and feagio 9l - 2 and 3s) it is an amazing litte (actually tiny) ESC, ive enjoyed it so much in the past month i bought another last weekend the tekin redline sensored motors are also great (had 8.5 on 2s geared for 40mph in a t4 and ran two 5000 packs back to back (40 solid mintues on the track) and the esc had 4 lights out of 7 and the motor was 141

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by rootar

sorry to get off topic but

your answer is the tekin RS run an external bec and cap and they are great on 3s and 4s.....ive been running mine in my T4 and slash on multiple different motors (8.5 sensored-2s, 10.5 sensored 2and 3s, and feagio 9l - 2 and 3s) it is an amazing litte (actually tiny) ESC, ive enjoyed it so much in the past month i bought another last weekend the tekin redline sensored motors are also great (had 8.5 on 2s geared for 40mph in a t4 and ran two 5000 packs back to back (40 solid mintues on the track) and the esc had 4 lights out of 7 and the motor was 141

Hmm, I wonder if it has a good drag brake? I am guessing the hotwire interface would be required to set that? I am not all that up to date on the tekin stuff, maybe I need to do some reading!

[starscream]

Originally Posted by lincpimp

Hmm, I wonder if it has a good drag brake? I am guessing the hotwire interface would be required to set that? I am not all that up to date on the tekin stuff, maybe I need to do some reading!

The Tekin RS ESC's are very nice. They seem over engineered so they can handle more than what they are rated for. You should be able to change the drag brake settings without the hotwire.

[TexasSP]

Originally Posted by lincpimp

Hmm, I wonder if it has a good drag brake? I am guessing the hotwire interface would be required to set that? I am not all that up to date on the tekin stuff, maybe I need to do some reading!

I have an FX-R and the programming works the same via remote as the other tekin ESC's. It is very simple to do and there is a set of LED's on the front of the ESC which make it quite simple to see where you are at in the programming. This is a very nice feature for sure. The drag brake for mine with a brushed motor is very nice.