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07.08.2009, 07:15 PM

17mm should be fine. Proline LPR or JC halfups, ofna LPR, etc


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07.08.2009, 07:26 PM

Zack here is what chad is talking about:

http://monster.traxxas.com/showthread.php?t=478086
   
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Zack here is what chad is talking about:

http://monster.traxxas.com/showthread.php?t=478086
Yeah I've been reading that some. Thanks. I just don't want to have to mod my tires in that way because of the worry of grass and dirt getting into my tires. I want it to work well... stock. I'm afraid of 17mm... I like back flips... alot. Big jumps to. I could get a hobby shop to cut my rims and rebuild them but that would cost alot and be time consuming.

Mark, how do you like your Garbage brand bulks?
   
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07.08.2009, 10:43 PM

17mm hexes are more than strong enough for even the most hardcore abuse, so you shouldn't have any problems with them, even doing standing back flips...23mm hexes are really just a novelty, and aren't really needed strength wise, but they do open up a few more wheel options.

Also, if you choose to mount your Badlands' beads on the inner-most bead lip of the wheel, you actually glue the part of the sidewall that touches the outer-most bead lip, so that there is no gap and nothing can get forced between the tire and the outer-most lip...it works very well.

Another option is to just run true LPR/3.7" tires on LPR/Half-Ups/3.7" wheels, which are designed to have a very short sidewall so that there is no sidewall bulge.

An even better option is to run the new Pro-Line VTR wheels and tires, which have ultra-short sidewalls and absolutely zero sidewall bulge, so there is no sidewall roll what-so-ever. They aren't ROAR approved yet, but they are in the process, and should be soon...at least before the next Worlds

Problem is, Badlands don't come in LPR or VTR, so you will have to either glue the tire beads to the inner-most bead lip of the wheel, or cut the beads off to enlarge the inner diameter of the tire to the bead diameter of the wheel you like.

In all honesty, though, mounting Badlands on the MT/3.2" or LPR/Half-Ups/3.7" wheels in the normal way does not cause any problems or negative side-effects...it just looks funny sometimes. The only time you would even notice it or need to fix it would be if you were racing competitively.


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07.08.2009, 10:46 PM

As for durability of 17mm hubs- I've spun 1 hub on my HST, and that's with a year of abuse. Great IMO.


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07.08.2009, 11:32 PM

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Yeah I've been reading that some. Thanks. I just don't want to have to mod my tires in that way because of the worry of grass and dirt getting into my tires. I want it to work well... stock. I'm afraid of 17mm... I like back flips... alot. Big jumps to. I could get a hobby shop to cut my rims and rebuild them but that would cost alot and be time consuming.

Mark, how do you like your Garbage brand bulks?
I love my 17 mm hexes. Jeesh I am twisting 1/8 diff output shafts and the wheel hex holds...go figure?

I am waiting for his reply. I guess for him it is either garbage or VBS. The only other option in my mind is the muggy diff mod that has been posted.
   
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07.08.2009, 11:51 PM

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17mm hexes are more than strong enough for even the most hardcore abuse, so you shouldn't have any problems with them, even doing standing back flips...23mm hexes are really just a novelty, and aren't really needed strength wise, but they do open up a few more wheel options.

Also, if you choose to mount your Badlands' beads on the inner-most bead lip of the wheel, you actually glue the part of the sidewall that touches the outer-most bead lip, so that there is no gap and nothing can get forced between the tire and the outer-most lip...it works very well.

Another option is to just run true LPR/3.7" tires on LPR/Half-Ups/3.7" wheels, which are designed to have a very short sidewall so that there is no sidewall bulge.

An even better option is to run the new Pro-Line VTR wheels and tires, which have ultra-short sidewalls and absolutely zero sidewall bulge, so there is no sidewall roll what-so-ever. They aren't ROAR approved yet, but they are in the process, and should be soon...at least before the next Worlds

Problem is, Badlands don't come in LPR or VTR, so you will have to either glue the tire beads to the inner-most bead lip of the wheel, or cut the beads off to enlarge the inner diameter of the tire to the bead diameter of the wheel you like.

In all honesty, though, mounting Badlands on the MT/3.2" or LPR/Half-Ups/3.7" wheels in the normal way does not cause any problems or negative side-effects...it just looks funny sometimes. The only time you would even notice it or need to fix it would be if you were racing competitively.

I've seen some guys strip em maybe it was user error, but I've never heard any striped 23mms, but I hate the slump and I really think it effects handling. I'm trying to keep up with my cousins losi 1.0 8t come on! I need all the help I can get. Blah, blah a Maxx will never keep up with a truggy. I don't believe it nor do I care. Nothing against truggies.

Should I try to wait on the new Proline VTR setups? Probably not? They sound awesome got a link chad?

I don't like the double glueing idea not with BL. Although i will tape the next tires that I get.

I hate it. This is standard size maxx right? With proline offset of course.


Still don't know what to do.

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07.08.2009, 11:54 PM

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Mark did you get the inside joke about the Garbage brand bulks?


Still don't know what to do.
Yep I did. On another topic check out kershaw designs for thier Maxx spring upgrade. It looks interesting.

http://204.186.93.64/SlipperSpring.htm
   
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I love my 17 mm hexes. Jeesh I am twisting 1/8 diff output shafts and the wheel hex holds...go figure?

I am waiting for his reply. I guess for him it is either garbage or VBS. The only other option in my mind is the muggy diff mod that has been posted.
Very cool. I didn't think about that! Mark I know backwards and forwards the kind of truck you build(a good one) But I really still don't know your driving style. I've seen your old video and everything. Is that it? Because I try to get at least one standing backflip in every run. And always big jumps 3-10 feet up. I plan to go higher once I can keep the truck in one piece. You know I just want to get a feeling for weither the parts(like the 17mms) will hold up under me as they do(or don't) under you. You really need to make a new video, that would help! But don't feel like you have to do backflips! I'm thinking those stub axles should be in anyday no? Bling!RacerX.

Yeah it wasn't the most helpful post either... . Never had a problem with cmckella though.
   
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07.09.2009, 12:21 AM

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On another topic check out kershaw designs for thier Maxx spring upgrade. It looks interesting.

http://204.186.93.64/SlipperSpring.htm

It is listed under all the maxxes and revo varients do you reall think it would fit the 3906 though. You know if Mike would just build the CD unit this would be non issue. He reallyyy needs to hire more help. I think hes running the risk of hurting his amazing rep. With the whole rarely answering emails thing because he has so many projects going that he can't keep up with. He did finally answer one my recent ones though. I may post up what it said. Its kind of open ended...
   
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07.09.2009, 01:02 AM

[Here] are the VTR tires...
[Here] are the VTR wheels...

Anyway, I actually prefer 23mm hex-adapters, because I think the Dace 23mm hex-adapters are simply the best ever made! They are made out of billet 7075, have a larger clamping surface, and are crazy-light...not to mention they look rad!


Also, my Badlands on my Pro-Line Velocity 23mm HD ½" off-set wheels do the exact same thing, as well as my Bow-Tie MTRs, just not as bad.


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Chad I thought I posted a big reply but I guess not. Sorry not going to retype it. I still don't know what to do but you have absolutely helped alot.

Mark have you seen post 174 and 175?



















   
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Neither are ready to install!! The diff case has to have a new helicoil! (seller didn't warn me) So 2moro its off to Texas for an online buddy with a helicoil kit to fix. These trannies have always had known fitment issues but not known to FLM. Its close but there is a good bit of resistance. I've gotta get some more clearence somewhere in there. The screw holes line up though which is good.
   
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07.12.2009, 11:43 PM

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Mark have you seen post 174 and 175?
Sorry,

My 17 mm hexes hold up fine even with my brother-in-law landing full throttle. When I first was upgrading my hexes I was told that there are more rims in 17mm than 23mm and that is why I went with them. I do not know if that is still true.

I think that spring will work on the 3906, but you could shoot Dan an email and ask before you purchase.

Is that jordan...'s tranny? You got some sweet parts there.....
   
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No I just got the FLM half case remember because of the flexing and despite FLM email claiming the case is good it is not. Too much binding.

I emailed dan he said the slipper will fit.

I may go with the 17mms then.
   
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