Motor upgrades for flux? Also question on wheel wideners - RC-Monster Forums

Slowkrawl

Hey guys, I am not really up to date or informed on the "big" brushless motors. I am tossing around the idea of a motor swap in the flux, mainly because it's bothering me that it's stock haha. The performance is awesome, but it's still stock! Is there a motor I could swap in? I don't want "bang for the buck" I want the best of the best, I basically just want to know what is out there? If anyone "in the know" could give me some insight that would be great.

Also, I was thinking about a set of wheel wideners but I have heard they just break more parts?

extended chassis is on the way, so I figure I might as well give it some lovin' while it's apart and cold outside. Thanks,

-Matt

10.11.2009, 06:38 PM

Uh you really can't get much better then whats already in the Flux without spending ALOT more money. You could go with a novak sensored system to go with the next step I suppose

http://www.teamnovak.com/products/br...tem/index.html

No experience with wheel wideners though offset rims will give you extra control and stability.

Slowkrawl · 10.11.2009, 07:03 PM

Hmm, might be tricky to find wheels I like with a decent offset.

Bondonutz · 10.11.2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Freezebyte

Uh you really can't get much better then whats already in the Flux without spending ALOT more money. You could go with a novak sensored system to go with the next step I suppose

http://www.teamnovak.com/products/br...tem/index.html

Novak makes great products but it would be a turn in the opposite direction, The Flux is basically a Steve NEU designed Castle 2200kv motor with a different can/heat sink.

If your running 2s in series, a upgrade would be a Genuine NEU motor 1515 Y. I would suggest you spend you hard earned money on drive train upgrades and worry about another motor when you roast the one you have now.

Slowkrawl · 10.11.2009, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bondonutz

Novak makes great products but it would be a turn in the opposite direction, The Flux is basically a Steve NEU designed Castle 2200kv motor with a different can/heat sink.

If your running 2s in series, a upgrade would be a Genuine NEU motor 1515 Y. I would suggest you spend you hard earned money on drive train upgrades and worry about another motor when you roast the one you have now.

I run it on 6s, and you may have a valid point. I more or less just wanted to know what my options were, for future reference. I have the diffs set up to where they seem to be holding, and just installed the HD drive gear. I'd still like a little more speed, maybe because I'm an idiot?

Bondonutz · 10.11.2009, 08:14 PM

When it comes time for a new NEU, get a lower KV version. It'll run cooler and speed will be more than you'll ever need prior to flight.

rchippie · 10.11.2009, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bondonutz

Novak makes great products but it would be a turn in the opposite direction, The Flux is basically a Steve NEU designed Castle 2200kv motor with a different can/heat sink.

If your running 2s in series, a upgrade would be a Genuine NEU motor 1515 Y. I would suggest you spend you hard earned money on drive train upgrades and worry about another motor when you roast the one you have now.

Agreed the only possible upgrade might be a TRUE steve neu motor . But in my opinion most people could not tell the difference with out a eagle tree system .

Slowkrawl · 10.11.2009, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rchippie

Agreed the only possible upgrade might be a TRUE steve neu motor . But in my opinion most people could not tell the difference with out a eagle tree system .

From what I understand the biggest difference is durability?

10.11.2009, 09:40 PM

I would just leave it, but if you have too what about the new tekin rx8 seems like a nice combo.

10.13.2009, 06:06 PM

On the wheel widening thing - i am not sure exactly what you are after - but i have run RD Logics 23mm Hub Extensions that worked very well - i ran them with Big Joes and Proline Cheyennes - i was quite worried at first, but they are strong as, and hold up very well - even with alot of bung/awkward landings and cartwheels, they have been bullet proof in my truck, but have not heard of anyone else running them funnily enough.

lincpimp · 10.13.2009, 06:29 PM

Ok, the 2200 is a 1515 size neu clone.

So the logical upgrade would be a 1521 motor. If you get a smooth can it will bolt right into the stock flux mounts. Nothing else will fit (unless it is the same diameter as a smooth can 15 series neu). I run a 1521 1y (1577kv) on 6s in my large trucks, and it does very well. Since you currently run 6s and a 2200 motor you would need to re-gear quite a bit if going to a lower kv motor. Not sure if you can change the gearing enough to run a 1600kv motor.

As far as going to a Novak system???? Freezebyte, you must be joking, or you are a huge dumbass... 1st the setup you linked is for 10th scale, and novak does not sell anything close to the power the flux/tork setup produces (maybe run 2 of their "8th" scale hv systems?)...

Wheel wideners are not a good idea, extra stress on wheel bearings will just cause continual failures in that area. Get some high qual bearings and use a different offset wheel if you want it to be wider. Not sure but someone makes wider arms, cvds, etc for the savvy.

07:25 PM

FLM makes wider arms that work very well also =) I havent had any problems with my wheel extensions or in that area.... yet - but i've had well over 6 months of hard use out of em...

Finnster · 07:09 PM

Ext chassis, 1521, and even SavXL wideners, 40 series. I have a SavXL, and I have not had a bearing failure in over a yr of use. I just pulled them all out for cleaning & oil, and the OEM ones were still super smooth.
Basically that exactly what I got. :) Be careful as the weight does add up. Mine is a pork-u-pine, but it fookin rocks. Makes my Revo look actually 1/10th scale.

+2 to FB displaying extreme dumbassery. Novak 1/10 on a 1/8th FTL. We'll excuse this once, on acct you are in Montana and its getting quite cold and obviously impairing your judgment.

10.13.2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Finnster

+2 to FB displaying extreme dumbassery. Novak 1/10 on a 1/8th FTL. We'll excuse this once, on acct you are in Montana and its getting quite cold and obviously impairing your judgment.

Least I can draw spiders with 8 legs

Finnster · 10.13.2009, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Freezebyte

Least I can draw spiders with 8 legs

Ah.. I obviously never told you my tale of my seven legged spider. :)
It is a long but interesting tale. Aye, just a year ago:

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From: Jane Gilles
Date: Wednesday 8 Oct 2008 12.19pm
To: Finnster
Subject: Overdue account

Dear Finn,
Our records indicate that your account is overdue by the amount of $233.95. If you have already made this payment please contact us within the next 7 days to confirm payment has been applied to your account and is no longer outstanding.

Yours sincerely, Jane Gilles

From: Finnster
Date: Wednesday 8 Oct 2008 12.37pm
To: Jane Gilles
Subject: Re: Overdue account

Dear Jane,
I do not have any money so am sending you this drawing I did of a spider instead.
I value the drawing at $233.95 so trust that this settles the matter.

Regards, Finn

From: Jane Gilles
Date: Thursday 9 Oct 2008 10.07am
To: David Thorne
Subject: Overdue account

Dear Finn,
Thankyou for contacting us. Unfortunately we are unable to accept drawings as payment and your account remains in arrears of $233.95. Please contact us within the next 7 days to confirm payment has been applied to your account and is no longer outstanding.

Yours sincerely, Jane Gilles

From: Finnster
Date: Thursday 9 Oct 2008 10.32am
To: Jane Gilles
Subject: Re: Overdue account

Dear Jane,
Can I have my drawing of a spider back then please.

Regards, Finn.

From: Jane Gilles
Date: Thursday 9 Oct 2008 11.42am
To: Finnster
Subject: Re: Re: Overdue account

Dear Finn,
You emailed the drawing to me. Do you want me to email it back to you?

Yours sincerely, Jane Gilles

From: Finnster
Date: Thursday 9 Oct 2008 11.56am
To: Jane Gilles
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Overdue account

Dear Jane,

Yes please.

Regards, Finn.

From: Jane Gilles
Date: Thursday 9 Oct 2008 12.14pm
To: Finnster
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Overdue account

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From: Finnster
Date: Friday 10 Oct 2008 09.22am
To: Jane Gilles
Subject: Whose spider is that?

Dear Jane,
Are you sure this drawing of a spider is the one I sent you? This spider only has seven legs and I do not feel I would have made such an elementary mistake when I drew it.

Regards, Finn.

From: Jane Gilles
Date: Friday 10 Oct 2008 11.03am
To: Finnster
Subject: Re: Whose spider is that?

Dear Finn,
Yes it is the same drawing. I copied and pasted it from the email you sent me on the 8th.
David your account is still overdue by the amount of $233.95.
Please make this payment as soon as possible.

Yours sincerely, Jane Gilles

From: Finnster
Date: Friday 10 Oct 2008 11.05am
To: Jane Gilles
Subject: Automated Out of Office Response

Thankyou for contacting me.
I am currently away on leave, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

Regards, Finn.

From: Finnster
Date: Friday 10 Oct 2008 11.08am
To: Jane Gilles
Subject: Re: Re: Whose spider is that?

Hello, I am back and have read through your emails and accept that despite missing a leg, that drawing of a spider may indeed be the one I sent you. I realise with hindsight that it is possible you rejected the drawing of a spider due to this obvious limb ommission but did not point it out in an effort to avoid hurting my feelings. As such, I am sending you a revised drawing with the correct number of legs as full payment for any amount outstanding. I trust this will bring the matter to a conclusion.

Regards, Finn.

From: Jane Gilles
Date: Monday 13 Oct 2008 2.51pm
To: Finnster
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Whose spider is that?

Dear David,
As I have stated, we do not accept drawings in lei of money for accounts outstanding.
We accept cheque, bank cheque, money order or cash. Please make a payment this week to avoid incurring any additional fees.

Yours sincerely, Jane Gilles

From: Finnster
Date: Monday 13 Oct 2008 3.17pm
To: Jane Gilles
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Whose spider is that?

I understand and will definitely make a payment this week if I remember. As you have not accepted my second drawing as payment, please return the drawing to me as soon as possible. It was silly of me to assume I could provide you with something of completely no value whatsoever, waste your time and then attach such a large amount to it.

Regards, Finn.

From: Jane Gilles
Date: Tuesday 14 Oct 2008 11.18am
To: Finnster
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Whose spider is that?

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