ok thanks limp. What i did was saw originally was that the kimbrough spur was not notched for the slipper pads and figured they were all like that. I did not know the associaated would be perfect. Funny thing is I thought I had read a while back about the 32 pitch conversion for the T4 with GT2 parts a while back. Oh well I will just order some spurs today. LOL....yup wasted some there.