Very Hot Wires on the 1717? or is that normal

[nuz69]

3 months !! ^^ here in Europe We wait 2-3 weeks max but we wait 7 days to get a Mamba Monster

[RuthlessLST]

Why can you only gear this monster for 45mph? I thought with more power we would beable to gear this thing up higher than the smaller motors.

[nuz69]

You can gear it for 45 mhp easily with 6S Lipo. The problem here is that it was 5S for more than 50mph with a heavy truck. The motor has no problem to handle that, but it was too much for the ESC and wires.
At the end of the day, you need power for accelerate your truck from 0 to 50mph, and if it is heavy and if you voltage is low, you need high current. The smaller motor cant handle this without heating, but in this case its the ESC which cant handle it ^^
Power = Volt * amp To reduce amp you need more volt and gear down for same top speed.

[Semi Pro]

Originally Posted by nuz69

3 months !! ^^ here in Europe We wait 2-3 weeks max but we wait 7 days to get a Mamba Monster

its a paid backorder, they don't have any large 6 cell packs in stock and they haven't for some time

[suicideneil]

That kinda sucks on the lipo backorder issue- have you concidered getting a refund & looking at other similar lipos/ elsewhere?

[Semi Pro]

Originally Posted by suicideneil

That kinda sucks on the lipo backorder issue- have you concidered getting a refund & looking at other similar lipos/ elsewhere?

im alittle concerend about trying, have you ever tried hobbykings support line its pretty bad. and i dont know of any other company that sells a 40c 6cell over 5000mah for under $100

[RuthlessLST]

Originally Posted by nuz69

You can gear it for 45 mhp easily with 6S Lipo. The problem here is that it was 5S for more than 50mph with a heavy truck. The motor has no problem to handle that, but it was too much for the ESC and wires.
At the end of the day, you need power for accelerate your truck from 0 to 50mph, and if it is heavy and if you voltage is low, you need high current. The smaller motor cant handle this without heating, but in this case its the ESC which cant handle it ^^
Power = Volt * amp To reduce amp you need more volt and gear down for same top speed.

I see! I was having a bad day when I posted that. So since he was running less volts and geared higher the system was pulling to much current. Thats why I am going with a 6s pack, I wanted higher voltage so the AMPs wouldnt go sky high because I knew this motor would call for it.

OP how are you geared for 50mph? I punched in some numbers and something is not adding up if you are running 5s or I put something in wrong.

[Semi Pro]

Originally Posted by RuthlessLST

I see! I was having a bad day when I posted that. So since he was running less volts and geared higher the system was pulling to much current. Thats why I am going with a 6s pack, I wanted higher voltage so the AMPs wouldnt go sky high because I knew this motor would call for it.

OP how are you geared for 50mph? I punched in some numbers and something is not adding up if you are running 5s or I put something in wrong.

here is my setup

Differential Ratio: 4.090909090909091 muggy diffs
Transmission Ratio: 1
Other Ratio: 1
Spur Tooth Count: 46 kyosho spur
Pinion Tooth Count: 19 Kershaw
Total Voltage: 17.5 that is holding 3.5v per pack under load
Motor KV: 1580 castle 1717
Tire Diameter (inches): 5.84 proline Badlands on maximizer beadlocks
Tire Ballooning (inches): 0.1 tires are taped and wraped so im not getting much if any balloning
Motor Current Draw: 0
Motor Coil Resistance: 0
Spur/Pinion Ratio: 2.42 : 1
Total Ratio: 9.90431 : 1
Tire Circumference (inches): 18.98 inches (481.97 mm)
Rollout: 1.92:1
Total Motor Speed: 27650 RPM
Vehicle Speed: 50.16 mph (80.58 km/h) holding 3.5v 53.03 mph if it could hold 3.7
Effective KV Value: 1580
KT constant: 0.86 oz-in/A

i hope that helps