Anyone use or try electronic cigarette?

[redshift]

As for NY's smoking laws, it's all about revenue, of course. We instated the ban in bars 4 or 5 years ago. Many bars just set up 'fine jars' so their patrons could continue to smoke, and pay the fine with that $. What amazes me is how few people notice how the 'state' talks out of both sides of it's mouth. On one hand they demonize it and "want to help you quit!" and on the other it generates HUGE amounts of tax revenue. So ya think they want to help you quit? Really? This kind of doublespeak drives me up the wall. Very effective on most people however. I don't care either way really as I'm not a barfly, but NY needs to get it's finger out of my @ss.

What a joke.

[JThiessen]

Originally Posted by redshift

As for NY's smoking laws, it's all about revenue, of course. We instated the ban in bars 4 or 5 years ago. Many bars just set up 'fine jars' so their patrons could continue to smoke, and pay the fine with that $. What amazes me is how few people notice how the 'state' talks out of both sides of it's mouth. On one hand they demonize it and "want to help you quit!" and on the other it generates HUGE amounts of tax revenue. So ya think they want to help you quit? Really? This kind of doublespeak drives me up the wall. Very effective on most people however. I don't care either way really as I'm not a barfly, but NY needs to get it's finger out of my @ss.

What a joke.

Ah, yes, the ever popular sin tax. WA state is now taxing softdrinks, Major Label beers, and other fine items, in addition to a 1$ a pack/can increase on tobacco (was already about 3 bucks a pop).

I chew and smoke. I'm screwed....but I order mine from one of your fine indian tribes in NY. But that also will soon be coming to an end, once they pass the ban on interstate mailing of tobacco products.