Freeze's Savage Flux "Frostbyte II" build thread

[thzero]

Yeah definetly that "collar" is worthless.

I'll have to go look at the LST2 axles then and see what they are doing. Only issue is 24mm hub adapters (for me at least :)

Originally Posted by Bondonutz

NOT argueing but I dissagree, on the extended axles the pin is out further from the protection and support of the bearing. It'll have a chance of flexing more. That POS alum collar is useless.

I have ben able to make LST2 axles work in my Lightning Stadium Pro2, when I have time I'll bet I can make them work in the Savy also.

[Finnster]

You may want to look into getting fixed rear hubs, like integy makes. Then you will not have any possible camber issues in the rear making it less stable in the back. Even with my setup board, it was always had to get the rear perfectly aligned as there is quite a bit of slop in the stock setup. The ballends are soft and tend to bend and stretch easy, making the whole rear sloppy.

The longer length should make the truck easier to control in the air, and less sensitive to thr input. EG. my crt.5 is very short WB, corrects very quickly in the air, but v easy to overcorrect or get thrown off balance. Much more difficult to control the car.

If you have more power or heavier tires, you will get more responsiveness to thr corrections in the air. Can be a matter of thr control off the jumps as well.

Personally I have not had any probs w/ the ext axles in my XL. I have 40 series offset wheels as well. My bearings are still the orig bearings that came on the truck and roll smoothly after 2+ yrs of use and good care. I would not trade off the stability and looks you get from the wide stance for any small increase in durability or turning radius.
As mentioned, the threaded portion seems the most common breakage, and is still there on the narrow axles. Its not the way I would have designed the truck, much prefer a wider arm and a trug style axle, but it is what it is.

I would say stick with it for a while and work on the setup and technique before you rip the whole thing apart. I never liked the tire choice tho. Most OEM tires are crap anyway. I would always recc some Proline tire instead.

[thzero]

Speaking of... I remember seeing someone end up tossing on some suspension arms onto a Savage from a Mugen truggy I think.

Originally Posted by Finnster

As mentioned, the threaded portion seems the most common breakage, and is still there on the narrow axles. Its not the way I would have designed the truck, much prefer a wider arm and a trug style axle, but it is what it is.

[Finnster]

Originally Posted by thzero

Speaking of... I remember seeing someone end up tossing on some suspension arms onto a Savage from a Mugen truggy I think.

Really? That would be sweet to have real wide arms and good axles.

I have some FLM alu bulks. It would be cool if they designed some that enables use of other types of arms. Wouldn't be that hard to change the milling pattern even for the lower arms even, as long as you can find a pair that are in alignment with the upper arm mounting area.
hmmmm....

[thzero]

Truggified Savage or http://s550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/

He's using Jammin X2 suspension pieces.

Originally Posted by Finnster

Really? That would be sweet to have real wide arms and good axles.

[Finnster]

Originally Posted by thzero

Truggified Savage or http://s550.photobucket.com/albums/ii427/badasssavage/

He's using Jammin X2 suspension pieces.

Cool thanks. I'll have to read thru. I had to go look at a pic of teh FLM bulkhead, and its a bit diff than I remembered. Have to see how he mounts the arms

I was looking around in the meantime, and most truggy r arms are flat. Seems like an easy way to replace arms and use truggy axles, provided you figured out how to put steering hubs in.

Kershaw even makes thier own ext Sav arms. Way too $$$, but basically they cut longer arms out of nylon plate. :o

[Bondonutz]

Take some aluminumm tape around 23mm hubs and viola' 24mm hub ?
A bunch of guys have doen it with success.

[thzero]

Nope, it doesn't work. The ProLine 23mm are crap, at least the ones for the Savage are, because how they are designed. I've blown through at least 3 of them... I have pictures of the results in my 5T thread.

Originally Posted by Bondonutz

Take some aluminumm tape around 23mm hubs and viola' 24mm hub ?
A bunch of guys have doen it with success.

Allright, there has been a last minute change of plans. I'm heading out town for labor day weekend for some R&R with my girl, so there will no final completion of "Frostbyte II" . I got the second to last shipment of parts needed to complete last minute changes and repairs from the trial run. After getting the body at long last, im totally excited on getting this baby finished and bashing in style!


I leave you with a bit of a "teaser" pic to you give you a hint of where I'm going with this. Enjoy the long weekend and see you all next week!

[bruce750i]

You can also change your lipo location a little more to the rear of the boxes or all the way back. The forward CoG hurts wheelies and air corrections.

[reno911]

Too cold! never. Waterproof that MMM and get your ass out in that snow. I know I will. I love it, and you never have to worry about the temp of anything.

Originally Posted by reno911

Too cold! never. Waterproof that MMM and get your ass out in that snow. I know I will. I love it, and you never have to worry about the temp of anything.

Uh yeah the prob is that lipo's don't like cold weather. And no way in hell im taking a chance with $400 worth of non waterproof electronics.

[Finnster]

Originally Posted by Freezebyte

Uh yeah the prob is that lipo's don't like cold weather. And no way in hell im taking a chance with $400 worth of non waterproof electronics.

I took my stuff out for several winters. As long as its 30+ I think its ok. If the lipos start off @ room temp and then you drive hard, they keep themselves warm. Keep the radio.dry ans dont soak the mmm and you are gtg.

The only thing ive killed was a hpi servo. Good excuse to upgrade your stocker.

Any colder than that, the plastic got brittle and lots of stuff liked to break.

[reno911]

Between that pic and your idea of racing your CAR against a boat on the water, you officially classified as insane Reno.