New castle brusless system?

[phatmonk]

Are the motors made in the same factory as the 1500 series motors?

[Pdelcast]

Originally Posted by phatmonk

Are the motors made in the same factory as the 1500 series motors?

Yes. And they rock.

The new 1406 and 1410 motors are very very efficient, are built with the same techniques as the 15xx series motors, same bearings, same rotor design (but slightly smaller diameter rotor) and are sized to be ROAR modified legal.

Thanx!

Patrick

[crazyjr]

Originally Posted by Pdelcast

Yes. And they rock.

The new 1406 and 1410 motors are very very efficient, are built with the same techniques as the 15xx series motors, same bearings, same rotor design (but slightly smaller diameter rotor) and are sized to be ROAR modified legal.

Thanx!

Patrick

Hey Patrick, Got a few questions. Are these going to be 550 or 540 based? What are the KV of each motor? and will they be available seperate of any esc? I already have a mamba max and plan to go MMpro and MMM later, do not see a need for a sidewinder. Thanks for any info you can provide

[Pdelcast]

Originally Posted by crazyjr

Hey Patrick, Got a few questions. Are these going to be 550 or 540 based? What are the KV of each motor? and will they be available seperate of any esc? I already have a mamba max and plan to go MMpro and MMM later, do not see a need for a sidewinder. Thanks for any info you can provide

The new Sidewinder SCT version handles similar power to the MMP, but is a lot less expensive (but doesn't have the features! -- it's a linear BEC, so limited to 3S, and has no sensor port...)

The motors will be available separately from controllers.

I don't really know what you mean by 550 or 540 based -- Mabuchi motor sizes?

The 1410 is the longest at 52.90mm (to be within the ROAR mandated 53.00mm length maximum.)

The 1406 motors are somewhat shorter.

And available Kvs are:

1410: 3800Kv
1406: 4600, 5200, 6700, 7700 -- more added soon.

Thanx!

Patrick

[hoovdog]

Originally Posted by Pdelcast

And available Kvs are:

1410: 3800Kv

Thanx!

Patrick

So a slightly higher kv than the Neu equivalent or mistype? Looking forward to getting my hands on this motor!

[rootar]

Originally Posted by Pdelcast

The new Sidewinder SCT version handles similar power to the MMP, but is a lot less expensive (but doesn't have the features! -- it's a linear BEC, so limited to 3S, and has no sensor port...)

The motors will be available separately from controllers.
Thanx!

Patrick

AWESOME! you created a super affordable system that any shop can confidently recomend for any 2wd or 4wd sc truck (slash 4x4 replacement when the vxl dies)



a sensored version of the motor, longer of course so not to take away from rotor length combo'd with the pro would be the perfect "pro sc " system for some us that just demand a sensored setup for our little toy race cars

[Pdelcast]

Originally Posted by rootar

AWESOME! you created a super affordable system that any shop can confidently recomend for any 2wd or 4wd sc truck (slash 4x4 replacement when the vxl dies)



a sensored version of the motor, longer of course so not to take away from rotor length combo'd with the pro would be the perfect "pro sc " system for some us that just demand a sensored setup for our little toy race cars

Yeah, we have a "pro" version in the works...

[crazyjr]

Originally Posted by Pdelcast

The new Sidewinder SCT version handles similar power to the MMP, but is a lot less expensive (but doesn't have the features! -- it's a linear BEC, so limited to 3S, and has no sensor port...)

The motors will be available separately from controllers.

I don't really know what you mean by 550 or 540 based -- Mabuchi motor sizes?

The 1410 is the longest at 52.90mm (to be within the ROAR mandated 53.00mm length maximum.)

The 1406 motors are somewhat shorter.

And available Kvs are:

1410: 3800Kv
1406: 4600, 5200, 6700, 7700 -- more added soon.

Thanx!

Patrick

Yes i was meaning like standard 540 and 550 brushed. I DL'ed the Roar rule book and saw that they only allow 12.51mm dia, 25mm long, 2 pole rotors. Does this mean a 2 pole motor with Neu type windings? also I'd like to see either the 1410 or the 1406 in a 3000kv or lower range (preferably around 2500kv) will that be possible?

[Pdelcast]

Originally Posted by crazyjr

Yes i was meaning like standard 540 and 550 brushed. I DL'ed the Roar rule book and saw that they only allow 12.51mm dia, 25mm long, 2 pole rotors. Does this mean a 2 pole motor with Neu type windings? also I'd like to see either the 1410 or the 1406 in a 3000kv or lower range (preferably around 2500kv) will that be possible?

12.5mmx25mm 2 pole rotors are only for stock and super stock.

Modified motors are allowed to be any construction as long as they have 1/8" shaft, and fit in a can 36.00mm x 53.00mm. And for racing, SC trucks are allowed to use ANY Modified motor. Stock motors don't have enough power.

Stock and Super Stock are based on the Novak motor design, which is a 3 slot (salient pole winding) two pole motor design with a 12.5mm rotor. Really a bad design IMHO, because it is very very sensitive to timing. ROAR should have adopted a very low inductance motor (like a two pole slotless) for stock and super stock, because those motors are very insensitive to timing -- makes it harder (if near impossible) to cheat.

[crazyjr]

So you could run a 1506 with a 1/8 shaft in a stadium truck for example, that would be too much, but fun to try.

thanks for the explanation Patrick, Two last question, Will these motors replace the current standard castle 1/10 motors currently in use? and, Are you planning a 4 pole replacement for the mini classes?

thanks and sorry for all the questions, I prefer the smaller 1/10 classes over MT and truggy.

EDIT: Holy crap, I just found out lehner xl and 1920 W/3.17mmshaft motors are allowed by patricks words. I wonder if smaller diameter motors would be allowed if not longer than max length?