1406 4 pole 4600kv

[slimthelineman]

Originally Posted by Pdelcast

That's coming... 1415, 2400Kv bundled with Mamba Max Pro...

We call it the SCT Pro -- or something like that.

Ooohhh man! The box for the 1406 was right.... Are your gears strong enough? We will find out huh? Can't wait to thow a 3s to this 4600 and watch her fly!

[crazyjr]

ok thanks, nothing wrong with the CM36 motors thats for sure. My 4600 is 3+years old and still humming along

[skellyo]

How soon will we see any of these at retailers Patrick?

[KniteWulfe]

These motors look so cool I might have to buy a new vehicle just so I can get one. Maybe it's time I get a short course truck.

I'd love to see a sensored 1800kv rock crawler version of these 4 pole cm36's. Probably not worth the time and cost of development for a niche market though.

[crazyjr]

Originally Posted by skellyo

How soon will we see any of these at retailers Patrick?

I was going to ask the same question, I want at least one 4600/1406 and one 3800/1410. I think the 2400/1415 will make a nice motor to try my theory of low volt high gear plan, 2s while gearing for mid to upper 30's

Differential Ratio: 2.6
Transmission Ratio: 1
Other Ratio: 1
Spur Tooth Count: 78
Pinion Tooth Count: 38
Total Voltage: 7.4
Motor KV: 2400
Tire Diameter (inches): 4
Tire Ballooning (inches): 0
Motor Current Draw: 0
Motor Coil Resistance: 0
Spur/Pinion Ratio: 2.05 : 1
Total Ratio: 5.33684 : 1
Tire Circumference (inches): 12.57 inches (319.19 mm)
Rollout: 2.35:1
Total Motor Speed: 17760 RPM
Vehicle Speed: 39.6 mph (63.61 km/h)
Effective KV Value: 2400
KT constant: 0.56 oz-in/A

this will be in a associated T4 If i can find a big enough pinion and fit it in. I already have a similar setup with a Lehner basic XL 1200 and 5s lipo (low for the KV) mid 30's with near 30 minutes of runtime with 2500 flightpower 5s pack

[SunnyHouTX]

Originally Posted by Pdelcast

Yeah, slim is right.

We will be offering a 7700Kv, 6900Kv, 5700Kv and 4600Kv.

(and of course, the 3800Kv 1410 motor...)

Thanx!

4-pole 7700? Get outta here!!! Gonna have to increase the motor budget

Unless I can work out a sponsorship with CC

[ZippyBasher]

Originally Posted by SunnyHouTX

4-pole 7700? Get outta here!!!

There ya go NitroStarter. 80mph Rustler All Day Long...

Not to mention 120+ TC5's *Co-Bondo-ugh*

:O

combos? me likey!

:D

That was gonna be my first question :) i've wanted a mmpro and a decent motor for the hyper 10tt i'm gonna convert... this looks like the combo to go for ;)

[Pdelcast]

Warning -- spoiler: (Got this from Steven Jones this morning -- he's the Castle engineer working on 14xx series motor testing and tuning...)

From: Steve Jones
Subject: 1415 2400Kv dyno results
to: engineering

Summary:
This thing rocks!
With 32pitch gears i hit a peak efficiency of 88% (!!!!) but i didn't have a low enough gear ratio and ran out of brake on the dyno.
...
Overall this motor performed excellently.

88% through gears into the dyno -- And with gear losses, the real efficiency is even higher...

All in all, excellent news on the Neu/Castle motor front.

any hints on pricing patrick?

How do you think these Motors will perform in a converted Ten-T? I'm currently running the MMM 2200kv combo on 4s and looking for similar power without the weight.

[snellemin]

Originally Posted by SunnyHouTX

4-pole 7700? Get outta here!!! Gonna have to increase the motor budget

Unless I can work out a sponsorship with CC

Seeing the Magic 1.0's allready

[slimthelineman]

Originally Posted by Pdelcast

Warning -- spoiler: (Got this from Steven Jones this morning -- he's the Castle engineer working on 14xx series motor testing and tuning...)

From: Steve Jones
Subject: 1415 2400Kv dyno results
to: engineering

Summary:
This thing rocks!
With 32pitch gears i hit a peak efficiency of 88% (!!!!) but i didn't have a low enough gear ratio and ran out of brake on the dyno.
...
Overall this motor performed excellently.

88% through gears into the dyno -- And with gear losses, the real efficiency is even higher...

All in all, excellent news on the Neu/Castle motor front.

whoooaaa!?!?!?! ran out of brake on the dyno? awesome! what voltage was this at? these new motors make some serious power in a 1/10 scale size package! I ran a few high speed passes with the 4600 today on 2s with the watt meter and was impressed to say the least. highest amp draw was 100 amps and peak watts was just shy of 760 watts!!! under this load it recorded the voltage droped to about 7.5 volts. dont know how incredibly accurate this turnigy meter is but it works well enough to get a real good idea of whats happening. great power output! next time i go to the track i will try it again in a race situation and then again with 3s to see what she does.

[SunnyHouTX]

Originally Posted by snellemin

Seeing the Magic 1.0's allready

That would be nice. I just want to be able to go into solid 1.2s with something other than the Neu 1110/1D which is only legal in Extreme.

This bit of news about the 1406 is amazing to say the least. When I read PDC's post about the available motor selection, I almost had an accident in my pants, front side ....

[ta_man]

Originally Posted by Pdelcast

Yeah, slim is right.

We will be offering a 7700Kv, 6900Kv, 5700Kv and 4600Kv.

(and of course, the 3800Kv 1410 motor...)

Thanx!

Patrick,

A while pack you posted some technical info on why the 15 series motors were slotted (lots of torque for heavy vehicles) and the CM36 (and CM20) were unslotted. I can't find the post right now or I would link to it.

I'm not complaining (the 1406 motors sound awesome and I already have a 1410 combo on order) but I'm curious why the change of heart regarding building a slotted motor in the 36MMX56MM size?

Is is just that we are wanting to run heavier cars with 36MM size motors?