Sidewinder SC

[JoFreak]

Will this set be enough to properly push a SCRT10 on 2S around?
I know it is supposed to work in a Slash 4x4, but the SCRT10 is a bit heavier then the Slash.

[Arct1k]

Originally Posted by JoFreak

Will this set be enough to properly push a SCRT10 on 2S around?
I know it is supposed to work in a Slash 4x4, but the SCRT10 is a bit heavier then the Slash.

I would say yes...

[ZippyBasher]

Originally Posted by Pdelcast

We don't recommend 3s because if we did, everyone with a 4wd SC truck would immediately try it... And that motor isn't appropriate for 3s in a 4wd SCT truck.

Both the motor and controller are 3s capable, in the right application... But not in a 4wd SCT truck.

So yes 3s is ok... in something like a rustler... I will.

[Bmr4life]

Originally Posted by ZippyBasher

So yes 3s is ok... in something like a rustler... I will.

Yeah, can I put this in a rustler or 2wd slash on 3s?

[Thomas Porfert]

Originally Posted by Bmr4life

Yeah, can I put this in a rustler or 2wd slash on 3s?

Not really intended for 3s on the 2wd slash. ESC temps will get a little high along with motor temps. You would be very limited on gearing and may have to keep the run times under 5 minutes. The safest setup for a 3s on a 2wd Slash would be the soon to be released 1415/1Y 2400kv motor. With the extra length it will produce significantly more torque, handle higher wattage and increase efficiency. Much much lower motor temps and a lot more gearing options. You would need to run the Mamba Max or Mamba Max Pro.

Thomas Porfert
Castle Tech Support

[ZippyBasher]

Originally Posted by Thomas Porfert

Not really intended for 3s on the 2wd slash. ESC temps will get a little high along with motor temps. You would be very limited on gearing and may have to keep the run times under 5 minutes. Thomas Porfert
Castle Tech Support

I Realize you work for CC but I still think the motor will handle the 3s in a rustler or 2wd slash just fine. Considering the weak 2 pole VXL motor pushes my Full Aluminum Rustler with masher 2k's. Maybe the Speedo will run a bit warm but I dont see the motor needing cool down every 5 minutes

I have this system on the way. Since this motor has so much torque I'm wondering if it is going to present a problem for those of us running 2wd.

Does this ESC have a torque control setting?

If not, can torque control be added to to the firmware?

If torque control was available, could you set it up so that when Torque Control is enabled via Castle Link Software:
A) "Punch Control" is disabled
AND
B) Field Link could use the Punch Control adjustment to adjust the Torque Control?

Thanks,


Chris

OK, I downloaded the Castle Link software and it looks like Torque Control is available on the Sidewinders. It would be cool to be able to adjust it with the field link card in place of Punch control.

[Unsullied_Spy]

So the 1406 on 3s in a Rustler is a bad idea? I know my 1506 is a bit larger and likely more powerful but it motivates my Rustler with serious authority geared 15/56 and doesn't even hint at getting warm on 2s with ESC temps reaching as high as 110 degrees (GASP!). Running 3s my motor gets up to 160ish in the Summer and if I am really pushing it I can possibly thermal my MM but only after running the crap out of it for a good 30-40 minutes--if I stick to 1 battery or give it a short break between batteries I can run through 2 packs without heat issues. With the blower on the 1406 and being run somewhat intelligently I'd think it would be OK.

[phatmonk]

How are these 1410 motors compared to the say 1515 efficiency wise.

[_paralyzed_]

Originally Posted by ZippyBasher

I Realize you work for CC but I still think the motor will handle the 3s in a rustler or 2wd slash just fine. Considering the weak 2 pole VXL motor pushes my Full Aluminum Rustler with masher 2k's. Maybe the Speedo will run a bit warm but I dont see the motor needing cool down every 5 minutes

Whoa dude, btfu. Do you understand how much of a privilege it is to have the OWNER and CHIEF ENGINEER of Castle Creation Inc. comment on our forums? Please do not argue with anybody from Castle. Their word is gospel. All we ask is that you listen to their word as you would the word of God. Thank you. Seriously. Respect man.

Originally Posted by Unsullied_Spy

So the 1406 on 3s in a Rustler is a bad idea? I know my 1506 is a bit larger and likely more powerful but it motivates my Rustler with serious authority geared 15/56 and doesn't even hint at getting warm on 2s with ESC temps reaching as high as 110 degrees (GASP!). Running 3s my motor gets up to 160ish in the Summer and if I am really pushing it I can possibly thermal my MM but only after running the crap out of it for a good 30-40 minutes--if I stick to 1 battery or give it a short break between batteries I can run through 2 packs without heat issues. With the blower on the 1406 and being run somewhat intelligently I'd think it would be OK.

It's a liability thing. They CANT say it's 3s capable, or they're liable for all 3s applications. Between you and I and the RCM family, yes, it is 3s capable. As far as Castle is concermed it is only 2s capable.

Originally Posted by phatmonk

How are these 1410 motors compared to the say 1515 efficiency wise.

This motor is not anywhere near a 1515 powerwise and should not be considered for a 1515 replacement or alternative. That being said, all castle and neu motors are 90+% efficient and efficiency wise is quite comparitive or similar.

[slimthelineman]

Honnestly guys 2s is plenty. I myself have always ran 3s in my 4x4 slash but since switching to the 4 pole 1406 I have found 2s is more than sufficient. I posted a while back on it and have another full race night on the setup. It really is amazing how much power this tiny motor makes. My truck is every bit as fast if not faster with the 2s 1406 setup than it was with a 3s 550. More noticably it is not as violent under heavy throttle input with the gearing I run. It has helped keep my lap times very consistant by not blowing out with excess power that can't be put down. I only race with my rigs so no bashing, I could see where excess power would be fun for that but I will have to agree with the cc crew. 2400 kv 1415 is going to be the best 3s motor for most. Not to say it can't be done with the other shorter higher kv cans, but the guys at cc know what time it is. That's quite alot of rpm and you had better be spot on with the gearing or bad things will happen and no one wants that. My guess is most will run it on 2s first and find out what I did. Dude these motors got serious rip throw a 2s at her with good gearing and watch your ride fly.

[bruce750i]

I raced with the 1410 3800kv in my MMP sc10 this last weekend in the open 2wd. It was a blast pulling away from the crowd down the straight. I ran a 3s 3000mah through it after the races with the same gearing and the motor temp shot all the way up to 130*F . Thanks Castle for another great product,TQ and the win!

What motors was "the croud" running?

[Pdelcast]

Originally Posted by _paralyzed_

Whoa dude, btfu. Do you understand how much of a privilege it is to have the OWNER and CHIEF ENGINEER of Castle Creation Inc. comment on our forums? Please do not argue with anybody from Castle. Their word is gospel. All we ask is that you listen to their word as you would the word of God. Thank you. Seriously. Respect man.

ROFL!!!

Seriously dude...

The SCT would be fine in a 3S Rustler type setup AS LONG AS the gearing was setup appropriately.

That's the important thing -- gear it right.