MaxAmps Race Edition Lipos

[moneybagsfor-rc]

I am a serious buyer, if these batteries can in fact do a legitimate 75c continuous graph, these WILL be my next buy. What's the hold up?

All joking aside, I am disappointed in the lack of proof, as I would assume that a company would perform tests on a product they claim to have certain specifications. If MaxAmps had done this, they would have graphs before release (as they should have) and there would be no problem showing us them, but unfortunately I do not believe that is the case.
If an airplane manufacturer claimed that their airplane could hold 5 people's weight you better believe they'd have done tests to support that claim prior to releasing their product. It's just basic business principles.
I commend you for your efforts and the way you are handling yourself on these forums, Brandon, and wish you the best of luck, but unfortunately I think that Maxamps has a bad reputation with a lot of members on these boards and you might have a tough time convincing them otherwise.

[slimthelineman]

McP is right. This is how I have felt about ma for a long time. Big claims with didly to back it up. To say 75c continuous and 150c "tru" ...... Burst would mean testing was done. But not for max amps they just pick a random number I feel like. I seriously doubt any lipo cell of this size will sustain a 475 amp draw for any length of time. Not that that is what we need but don't advetise it if it ain't true. In most states that is false advertising. I mean really the dude has had 14 pages and a couple weeks to quell the critics and what have we seen? Same old products and claims from the same old company. Not to mention the demographic of uneducated hobbyists they target I'm waiting for someone to be injured cause they overated their packs with no actual testing or proof. Some will say I'm being harsh but who cares put up or shut up that's how I roll if you say it's 75-150c let's see it you've had plenty of time to show us how you came up with this rating. Let's just hope it's something more than a bold faced lie.

[JERRY2KONE]

Well honestly I expected that we would be waiting and waiting and waiting on them to come up with some sort of info backing up the claims, but what I would like to hear about is how the cells worked out for MonsterMike since he was given some packs to play with. So MM whats the scoop? How did those LiPo packs hold up for you after Brandon gave them to you? He told us that he gave you some race packs to try out, so what is your take on them?

Hey Guys,

Sorry I have not posted in a while. I have a lot going on right now. Designing ads, making changes to the site etc. Some videos and more graphs are on the way. I will keep you updated when I have them almost ready to go.

Thanks,

Brandon

[ZippyBasher]

Originally Posted by brandonwilcox

Some videos and more graphs are on the way. I will keep you updated when I have them almost ready to go.

Thanks,

Brandon

Same Shit; Another Day. We heard that weeks ago... IF they were 75C you would have to test them to know they were 75C. BEFORE you market them and "Design Ads".

[RC-Monster Mike]

I haven't run the packs yet, but I will be sure to comment when I can do so intelligently. I have only been back from I-Hobby for a week and the packs have only been here for a couple days - still need to unpack the stuff and dig up my Eagletree for data gathering - but parts come first.
I don't have the equipment to test 75c continuous(nobody I know does, either), much less 150c - I plan on mapping voltage under load against a 6500mah Hyperion pack (35c cont./65c burst rated) to guage the overall ability of the pack. The fact is that even at 75c continuous, the pack would only last for 48 seconds before being completely discharged(assuming it could deliver 6500mah at this load, which is doubtful). The wires, connectors, etc. couldn't handle this load without melting, either. I am completely confident that the packs can't deliver 75c continuous, as the wire and connectors are a necessary part of any pack. I don't intend to even attempt to verify this absurdity. I do, however, hope to get an idea of the overall capability of the packs. If they can hang with the Hyperion packs (voltage at a given load), then they(the packs)will have earned my respect. Regardless of label claims, I am interested in any quality battery pack.

[_paralyzed_]

Well put Mike. I'm continually impressed with your intelligence and level headedness.

Go Monster!! Raaaaawr!!

[JoFreak]

Originally Posted by brandonwilcox

Designing ads...

Maybe just delliver some facts and the graphs everybody is asking for. What could be a better advertisment for a company other than their products beeing good?

Originally Posted by brandonwilcox

...and more graphs...

So this implies there allready are graphs.
What ever they are worth (see the point I made earlier about graphs), show them to us.

If you don't plan on showing proof (don't have to admit anything in public, but be honest to yourself), you may as well save your time here.
I doubt you'll win any customers on RCM with your current delay tactics.
But then again, what do I know about marketing?
I'm just a customer...

Sorry Brandon, as sympathetic as you were with RCCA, this is not it.

[josh9mille]

Originally Posted by ZippyBasher

Same Shit; Another Day. We heard that weeks ago... IF they were 75C you would have to test them to know they were 75C. BEFORE you market them and "Design Ads".

Originally Posted by JoFreak

If you don't plan on showing proof (don't have to admit anything in public, but be honest to yourself), you may as well save your time here.
I doubt you'll win any customers on RCM with your current delay tactics.
But then again, what do I know about marketing?
I'm just a customer...

Sorry Brandon, as sympathetic as you were with RCCA, this is not it.

I think we need to give the guy a break, Im sure he is trying to get settled into his new job, as well as change the website, as well as designing ads etc. Im sure he is just doing what he is told. Fact of the matter is we here at RCM are just not their target demograpgic, we are too smart and we see BS from a mile away, so why should he be listening to our demands? I mean i bet 95% of us here would never buy a MA pack anyway, and i am sure they know that. I havent looked but i bet brandon and/or jason is much more active on the traxxas forums, RCU, RCTech etc than they are here on RCM because that is where their target demograpgic is.

[JERRY2KONE]

Originally Posted by josh9mille

I think we need to give the guy a break, Im sure he is trying to get settled into his new job, as well as change the website, as well as designing ads etc. Im sure he is just doing what he is told. Fact of the matter is we here at RCM are just not their target demograpgic, we are too smart and we see BS from a mile away, so why should he be listening to our demands? I mean i bet 95% of us here would never buy a MA pack anyway, and i am sure they know that. I havent looked but i bet brandon and/or jason is much more active on the traxxas forums, RCU, RCTech etc than they are here on RCM because that is where their target demograpgic is.

YES but I bet most of us have purchased a Maxamp pack in the past and we are looking for some level of retribution in the way of them finally coming to terms and either admitting that these race ready packs are not what is bing advertised, or that these packs are finally up to par with the rest of the hobby. Either way we just want some truthful info one way or another. Could you imagine if one of our 1:1 auto makers handled their advertising like this?

[JoFreak]

Originally Posted by josh9mille

Fact of the matter is we here at RCM are just not their target demograpgic...

That's exactly my point!
But why would he then be wasting his time here?
And yes, he shure has got a lot to do, but better do one thing at a time rather then 3 things at once. And keep in mind, he's the one promising graphs.

And please believe me, I couldn't care less what maxamps does or what der LiPos do. If I wanted high quality packs, I would simply buy SLS LiPos.
But I'm trying to understand their tactics here and just don't get it.
Promising results and not delivering them isn't going to help them (at least not here).
Claiming things isn't going to help.
Delaying us isn't going to help.
This way it's just a colossal waste of time, and that's something next to no company does lightly.

[sikeston34m]

Originally Posted by JoFreak

That's exactly my point!
But why would he then be wasting his time here?
And yes, he shure has got a lot to do, but better do one thing at a time rather then 3 things at once. And keep in mind, he's the one promising graphs.

And please believe me, I couldn't care less what maxamps does or what der LiPos do. If I wanted high quality packs, I would simply buy SLS LiPos.
But I'm trying to understand their tactics here and just don't get it.
Promising results and not delivering them isn't going to help them (at least not here).
Claiming things isn't going to help.
Delaying us isn't going to help.
This way it's just a colossal waste of time, and that's something next to no company does lightly.

Did you ever stop to consider the thought process behind the marketing hype?

It kinda reminds me of the behavior of some children.

Good Attention..........Bad Attention..........It doesn't matter what kind of Attention.............Just so I get Attention.

I do appreciate the Monster's input and do look forward to some Eagletree tests in real world conditions. It's the very same thing I was considering when I posted my offer. Of course, I didn't get any response to that, not that I was holding my breath.

I'm not holding my breath for graphs from Maxamps either. All that has been produced so far from them, is a measely 7C - 8C graph.

Which is something even the cheapest Lipo on the market can hold up to. Many CHEAP Packs would blow a 7C - 8C graph out of the water. So I wonder where my money will be spent, based on the presented information so far?

[moneybagsfor-rc]

It only costs a few extra bucks to upgrade the wiring to something like 4 gauge wire and 8mm gold bullet connectors. Why is this considered so out of question to hobbyists?

[BrianG]

lol, 4GA. The wiring and connectors will weigh more than the pack itself.