Castle looking ESC coming to hobbyking

The problem with blatant copying like this is , while China does have copyright laws they aren't worth the paper they are written on. They fiercely protect their own and only way you will get any justice is to pay a bunch of corrupted government officials to actually exercise the laws that are in place. Other than that I doubt much can be done.

This is bad. Really bad IMO and if these copied ESCs perform well that could be even worse. If they drive Castle out of business who will innovate and develop new ESCs. The copycats sure wont and probably wouldn't know how to anyway. What makes me wonder is why no one is copying the Euro ESCs like MGM and Schulze???? Surely them being more expensive there would be even greater profit margin. Why are they almost always picking on Castle? Anyone have theory on this?

I hope you get some sort of positive outcome out of this Patrick.

[simplechamp]

Too bad to see HobbyKing going down this path. Regardless of whether you loved or hated their lipos and other gear at least they were selling their own products. Now they have this Castle clone ESC, along with the Spektrum and Futaba clone RX's and the HPI Baja clones, with no doubt more things to come.

The sad part is there is very high demand for these products. As long as there is demand and people willing to buy it, they'll keep churning out the clones.

[DwightSchrute]

Originally Posted by simplechamp

Too bad to see HobbyKing going down this path. Regardless of whether you loved or hated their lipos and other gear at least they were selling their own products.

+1. this was the way i used to feel.....

however....
After seeing all of these new products.... i'll add that I will never... EVER buy from hobby king again. no batteries, nothing. they've lost my business for good. ugh.....this makes me wanna vomit.

Originally Posted by BIG-block

The problem with blatant copying like this is , while China does have copyright laws they aren't worth the paper they are written on. They fiercely protect their own and only way you will get any justice is to pay a bunch of corrupted government officials to actually exercise the laws that are in place. Other than that I doubt much can be done.

This is bad. Really bad IMO and if these copied ESCs perform well that could be even worse. If they drive Castle out of business who will innovate and develop new ESCs. The copycats sure wont and probably wouldn't know how to anyway. What makes me wonder is why no one is copying the Euro ESCs like MGM and Schulze???? Surely them being more expensive there would be even greater profit margin. Why are they almost always picking on Castle? Anyone have theory on this?

I hope you get some sort of positive outcome out of this Patrick.

na, they arent more expensive, example:

MGM 140 amp 15S esc : 259 eur = 340 usd
http://mgm-compro.com/index.php?tid=...-32-bit-system
Castle Monster XL 8S esc = 350 usd
http://www.castlecreations.com/products/mamba_xl.html

MGM is know as very reliable and spot on if not underrated spec

Originally Posted by freddy

na, they arent more expensive, example:

MGM 140 amp 15S esc : 259 eur = 340 usd
http://mgm-compro.com/index.php?tid=...-32-bit-system
Castle Monster XL 8S esc = 350 usd
http://www.castlecreations.com/products/mamba_xl.html

MGM is know as very reliable and spot on if not underrated spec

259 eruo???

Looks like 310.47 to me ===> 410 bucks!
But at the same time, nearly double the cell count of the MambaXL.

Im siding with Castle, nobody can beat their customer service and reliability of their ESCs. Remember your old mamba max 4s setups on your 8th conversions? Let's see a 10th scale Chinese esc do that.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by 1maxdude

Im siding with Castle, nobody can beat their customer service and reliability of their ESCs.

But the MGM is like Schulze ....
Not in in the same league as Castle ! When it comes to "Userfriendly" and "Support"

We will dumped an 32.200 Schulze and havn't talked about a MGM for our projects, because Castle will have what we need (XL XL HV)


Chinese can copy, what they want, I'm not going to buy it !

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by BIG-block

What makes me wonder is why no one is copying the Euro ESCs like MGM and Schulze????

For me, there is a very simple answer for this !
1. Castle is THE brandname on the planet for ESC's and there products just work.

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Schulze is just way too expensive and does not work any better then Castles stuff within the same parameters (6S max)

We just tested the Schulze 32.200 against the MMM.
Schulze failed from the inside to the outside
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