Castle 1410 1y

[scarletboa]

Originally Posted by phatmonk

What about running this motor in a Mugen MBX6 Eco on 3s.

if the buggy is light enough, i say go for it. my crt .5 is pushing around 7lbs and it overgeared and the motor still stays pretty cool.

[phatmonk]

The Mugen MBX6Eco specs say it's 6 lbs.CC recommends 6.5 lbs maximum.

[scarletboa]

you should be fine then. it should run pretty good actually. i was expecting a lot out of the 1410 motor, considering it is based off the neu design and not only has it met my expectations, it has surprisingly exceeded them. this motor is about equivalent to a medusa 60mm motor as far as power handling. i would be shocked if you could even get that motor over 150F in that buggy, and that's without the blower.

this motor is about equivalent to a medusa 60mm motor as far as power handling. i would be shocked if you could even get that motor over 150F in that buggy, and that's without the blower.

Now don't start getting delusions of grandeur . :) A Medusa 60, it ain't. They were a bigger rotor motor. I ran one in my E-revo for about a year, the 1410 isn't gonna handle that.

But it is a great motor, and my point here is that I data logged mine, in a Pede 4x4, geared 11/54, with Trencher tires on 3s. Ran 54 mph, and pulled 116.8 amps. Had lot's of bursts in the 100 range. No temp issues, still.

[E-Revonut]

I will agree that I don't think it's quite on par with a 36-60 Medusa but I think it does surpass a 36-50. There's no way I would try pushing a e-revo/maxx with just one of these. The motor is very impressive though. I think instead of the blower though they should include a fan that can snap onto the esc, the blower is a waste with this motor

[scarletboa]

hmmm...alright, well, i might have been exaggerating just a little. the 60mm medusa i had was not in exactly the best shape and it has comparable temps in the same setup geared for the same speed at a similar max rpm. the bearings were getting pretty rough too in the medusa.

i do think these would do alright in a maxx or revo geared for ~30mph. once i get my revo fixed, i will try it out and might finally have a reason to use the blower.

[hootie7159]

I run mine in my losi scte...geared 16/40....2s 65c 5600mah proteks...back to back runs without any rest (except to swap out lipos) will get this motor up too 200F...(on a 1/10th scale track pretty decent size)..it's a good thing the windings and magnets can take temps waaaaay above 200F... ;)

[Thomas Porfert]

Originally Posted by hootie7159

I run mine in my losi scte...geared 16/40....2s 65c 5600mah proteks...back to back runs without any rest (except to swap out lipos) will get this motor up too 200F...(on a 1/10th scale track pretty decent size)..it's a good thing the windings and magnets can take temps waaaaay above 200F... ;)

Just be careful with those numbers.. That magnet can handle a bit more than 200° F, but I wouldn't say way more though; and remember the temp on the outside of the can is not the temp of the magnets. I would let that little guy get a bit of rest in-between batteries; it's a good motor, but it does have its limits.

I am curious about that setup in the new Losi SCTe. We haven't received one to test with yet, and it is a bit heavier than the other 4x4 short course trucks. With that gearing on a single battery run, what kind of temps are you seeing on the motor? And are you using the Sidewinder SCT ESC or a Max Pro? Thanks!

Thomas Porfert
Tech Support
Castle Creations

[Big House]

I am shooting for 100+ with a converted Super Nitro RS4. Currently I am running a MM on 4s with a Medusa 36/60. It is geared at 44/20. I love the Medusa but I am wondering is it time to retire it for a smaller higher Kv motor for bullet runs. The car with the battery and body is 4.69lbs. My only issue is the 1410 is smaller in diameter to the Medusa. It also seems like this should be the perfect replacement for the MM7700 in my TA-04R as it weighs a mere 3.14 lbs. I am shooting for 100+ with it also. Let me know what you all think.

[E-Revonut]

The 1410 isn't smaller in diameter than the Medusa, at least not by a noticable amount

[hootie7159]

@Thomas...

After one run (about 14min) the motor goes from a resting 68f to 160f without a shroud...with the shroud, the motor is cool (135f) in the center but the temp from the endbell still reads around 160.... I run this in an indoor clay track (http://www.capitalrc.com/) ...I'm not sure how much this truck weighs since I don't have a scale but it def is heavier than the slash 4x4...
Complete setup is as follows:
16/40 gearing
5/7/3 diffs
Aka wish bones mounted on stock scte wheels
MMP (no timing or punch control...throttle curve is pulled up 2-3 squares from the middle to the upper left corner (forgot what this shape was called lol)
2s 65C 5600mah protek lipos
Dx3s sr3100t

I'm no hack so i don't spend a lot of time on my lid or hitting the pipes but I do run pretty aggressively...Btw, Thomas, I though I read somewhere that the windings could withstand 180c and the magnets 250c...???

[fastbaja5b]

Would this motor handle say an RC8 (got enough spares to make one) dressed up as a Corr truck on 2s (SC8 Bumpers, Shock Towers and Body Posts, SC10 Body) and geared for 30mph?

Not sure what sort of weight that'd be (RC8 is in bits) but I wouldn't imagine it being much more than a Hyper 10SC?

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by fastbaja5b

Would this motor handle say an RC8 (got enough spares to make one) dressed up as a Corr truck on 2s (SC8 Bumpers, Shock Towers and Body Posts, SC10 Body) and geared for 30mph?

Not sure what sort of weight that'd be (RC8 is in bits) but I wouldn't imagine it being much more than a Hyper 10SC?

Hehe i had the same idea and will try it on my RC8 to SC10 4x4 Conversion.
Just the car without Lipos is about the same weight as my Hyper 10SC

Hope to get the test done next weekend

I have the 1415 can and this thing is way to much in my 4WD SC10 ... maybe the 1410 is the way to go

will see

[fastbaja5b]

Well my RC8 weighs in at 3.3kg without batteries, mind you that's set up with a MMP and Neu 1515 1Y

The 4wd Corr thing will be a spare parts build, will prob need to buy shock towers, a few gaskets and shocks themselves, plus a shell and Motor. (have a bunky Venom ESC (Xerun 120A V1) which looks like hell but it just won't die!

[Big House]

Originally Posted by E-Revonut

The 1410 isn't smaller in diameter than the Medusa, at least not by a noticable amount

I was looking at the Castle website and it stated the 1410 is longer than the 36mm motors but the diameter is 25mm where as the Medusa is 36mm. But the thing that caught my attention was the fact they(Castle) said it was an improvement over the already excellent 36mm motors.