New traxxas castle mamba monster extreme?

[fastbaja5b]

Nah mate I got my Castle Link card..

But seriously if you can afford a $1099 rc car, you can afford an Ipod Touch to use the software, not to get into this Iphone vs Android thing, but I have an Iphone and an Android Tablet, and for the 'non computer nerd' amongst us, the Apple is a lot more user friendly so I can see why that platform was used.

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by fastbaja5b

the Apple is a lot more user friendly so I can see why that platform was used.

The reason they used the itouch iphone is that the plug on the bottom is the same on both products. No other smart products have matching plugs.

[josh9mille]

all android phones have the same plug. Plug location may differ, but that would not be an issue if they could design the radio with a 3 or 4inch pigtail to plug into the phone.

[BrianG]

Could be the connector thing. The iDevice snaps into place with no "wires" to mess with. Adding a cable would just be a point of failure. But really, I think the reason it more to do with app consistency. How many Android devices are out there that won't run this or that app because of some incompatibility? Sure, most app devs release patches, but with the iDevice, there are MUCH fewer devices to worry about.

Either way, no matter if it was Android, BlackBerry, Windows, etc; the issue I have is the purposeful crippling of the system without the added device. It's not about added cost, it's not about requiring Apple specifically. And I've made my opinion clear about this system if the reasoning is to mitigate liability.

[littlejohn]

Originally Posted by BrianG

Either way, no matter if it was Android, BlackBerry, Windows, etc; the issue I have is the purposeful crippling of the system without the added device. It's not about added cost, it's not about requiring Apple specifically. And I've made my opinion clear about this system if the reasoning is to mitigate liability.

lol... where have you been for the past 15 years? Intel & AMD have been doing this since almost forever. For a very long time now all their CPUs are the same chip, with the lower spec ones being crippled versions of their more powerful counterparts.
At least Trx allows you to un-cripple the product without doing a hack job on it ;)

A lot of car manufactures are the same. They detune engines in the ecu for specific markets. eg Audi TTS, S3, VW Golf R, GTi etc etc..

EDIT: I guess I understand your POV, it's more about the advertising of the product. Other companies don't advertise the potential of their products and then go on to say that you need to pay extra to realise the full potential (some do but not many). In the case of CPU mfgs, they just advertise the non / lesser crippled units as something totally different and make you pay for it. So at the end of the day, it just a matter of marketing perception.

[Unsullied_Spy]

Originally Posted by littlejohn

lol... where have you been for the past 15 years? Intel & AMD have been doing this since almost forever. For a very long time now all their CPUs are the same chip, with the lower spec ones being crippled versions of their more powerful counterparts.
At least Trx allows you to un-cripple the product without doing a hack job on it ;)

A lot of car manufactures are the same. They detune engines in the ecu for specific markets. eg Audi TTS, S3, VW Golf R, GTi etc etc..

EDIT: I guess I understand your POV, it's more about the advertising of the product. Other companies don't advertise the potential of their products and then go on to say that you need to pay extra to realise the full potential (some do but not many). In the case of CPU mfgs, they just advertise the non / lesser crippled units as something totally different and make you pay for it. So at the end of the day, it just a matter of marketing perception.

A lot of de-tuned computer hardware is made from chips that don't pass QC for a higher-rated device. Take the GeForce 6800 Ultra/GT/GS for example. The best chips went into the Ultra and had the highest clock rates. The GT was a great card in its day, but the Ultra could still be overclocked farther before destabilizing. I had a GT flashed to Ultra firmware and overclocked past Ultra stock settings, but any true Ultra would go to higher clock speeds before destabilizing. The GS was basically a GT with 4 pixel rendering pipelines and a shader disabled, some could be succesfully unlocked and some had issues when unlocked. Those would normally have been thrown out but instead they locked out the defective parts and sold the parts at a discounted price. That kind of locking is OK because you're getting a good deal on something that would normally have been thrown out, and it still performed really well. Once my GT burned up I got a GS to replace it and it unlocked just fine, awesome. Burned the GS up and got another one on warranty, that one wouldn't unlock without artifacting but it was nowhere near the cost of the GT.

Most modern cars come tuned to deliver about ~70-80% of what they're capable of for a number of reasons. They can sacrifice power in favor of fuel economy, in some cases change the tax or insurance classifications for a car, keep idiots from blowing their engines and blaming the manufacturer, there's a ton of different things. It's not about making someone buy a tune or anything, it's about making it last longer, cost less, etc.

I agree with the marketing, if it's going to be 100+ capable then they should specify that. When I got my mini Revo it said on the box what it would do out of the box and what it would do if I changed the gearing and put a bigger battery in it. Then again, when I bought my 3.3 Nitro 4-Tec I just broke in the engine and hit the throttle. 0-60 in ~3.5 seconds according to TRX and with some porting of the engine and taller gears it'd do 80+ but the 4-Tec has never come limited...

[josh9mille]

If its about liability then the purchaser could just sign a waiver at the time of purchase, or if bought online maybe a "i agree to the terms of use" checkbox in order to proceed to checkout. My beef is not the use of an apple product, but the fact it is advertised on the box to go 100mph, but in order to actually go that fast you need an ipod. Seems kind of exclusive to me. Sure I could go buy a used ipod touch for around 150 off of craigslist, but I just paid a grand for a toy car that wont perform as advertised and now im broke, and to top it off my wife is pissed off because she found out i spent a grand on said toy car.

Originally Posted by josh9mille

If its about liability then the purchaser could just sign a waiver at the time of purchase, or if bought online maybe a "i agree to the terms of use" checkbox in order to proceed to checkout. My beef is not the use of an apple product, but the fact it is advertised on the box to go 100mph, but in order to actually go that fast you need an ipod. Seems kind of exclusive to me. Sure I could go buy a used ipod touch for around 150 off of craigslist, but I just paid a grand for a toy car that wont perform as advertised and now im broke, and to top it off my wife is pissed off because she found out i spent a grand on said toy car.

Chances are good that anyone buying this car, has a friend who has a iOS device. You only need to download the app and unlock the ESC once. After that you have full use of the car.

[josh9mille]

Originally Posted by CarstenL

Chances are good that anyone buying this car, has a friend who has a iOS device. You only need to download the app and unlock the ESC once. After that you have full use of the car.

The point is, is that nobody should have to borrow/buy/use any device to use the car as advetised on the box.

[Bernie Wolfard]

Bryan, Thanks, we don't take it personally, I just find such a wast of time and server space. If you have a complaint, do it somewhere where it might do some good.

Bernie.

[BrianG]

I think even a waiver is not going to work. See my previous thoughts on this in case you missed it:

Originally Posted by BrianG

To be blunt, the lawsuit/liability thing is just bull****. This whole hobby is a lawsuit waiting to happen; you have lipos that can burn your house down if you don't treat them right, gears that can chomp a finger if you are stupid enough to go near them while it's running, voltages that can harm you (for HV people), currents that can generate enough heat to burn, and so on. And really, a ~10lb vehicle will hurt just as much doing 70mph into your ankle as 100mph. Idiots will get hurt and hurt others no matter what you do.

[RC toy]

Someone asked if it could work with an iPad so here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e9VU...eature=related

[Bernie Wolfard]

The iPhone lock is a Traxxas 'feature' and not something Castle Creations has anything to do with. It would be more appropriate to voice your concerns on the Traxxas website. You will need to approach Traxxas on this, not Castle Creations.

Bernie

[BrianG]

Bernie, I think we all know that CC has no say on this, and that it's a Traxxas "feature". So, please don't think these comments are against you guys. And some have voiced our concerns at the Traxxas website.

[suicideneil]

^No point complaining on the traxxas forum then- they'd just accuse you of traxxas bashing & ban you