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12.18.2011, 09:03 PM

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Um, maybe it's more like this: You pay full price for your new ford diesel and it can only go 50mph unless you unlock it with an iphone. Would you be happy?

no but i bought a dodge and without an edge it only makes a pathetic 230hp

the point is if you don't like it don't buy it


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......maybe they want to be more like novak
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12.18.2011, 10:52 PM

The Castle Motors have gone to nearly $300 ea on their site which Patrick has explained as the price of one of the key raw materials going through the roof. Personally, it just means if I see Castle Neu motors for $100 ea on the Forums with light use I snap em up :)

If you can afford $1099 for an XO1, you can afford to buy an Ipod Touch to unlock it. Do we complain that a MMM Esc won't work with a Hobbywing Esc card?


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If you can afford $1099 for an XO1, you can afford to buy an Ipod Touch to unlock it. Do we complain that a MMM Esc won't work with a Hobbywing Esc card?
If anybody would complain about that, it would be you. So I think we're good to go.
   
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12.19.2011, 02:27 AM

Nah mate I got my Castle Link card..

But seriously if you can afford a $1099 rc car, you can afford an Ipod Touch to use the software, not to get into this Iphone vs Android thing, but I have an Iphone and an Android Tablet, and for the 'non computer nerd' amongst us, the Apple is a lot more user friendly so I can see why that platform was used.


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12.19.2011, 12:14 PM

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the Apple is a lot more user friendly so I can see why that platform was used.


The reason they used the itouch iphone is that the plug on the bottom is the same on both products. No other smart products have matching plugs.
   
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12.19.2011, 03:50 PM

all android phones have the same plug. Plug location may differ, but that would not be an issue if they could design the radio with a 3 or 4inch pigtail to plug into the phone.


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12.19.2011, 04:15 PM

Could be the connector thing. The iDevice snaps into place with no "wires" to mess with. Adding a cable would just be a point of failure. But really, I think the reason it more to do with app consistency. How many Android devices are out there that won't run this or that app because of some incompatibility? Sure, most app devs release patches, but with the iDevice, there are MUCH fewer devices to worry about.

Either way, no matter if it was Android, BlackBerry, Windows, etc; the issue I have is the purposeful crippling of the system without the added device. It's not about added cost, it's not about requiring Apple specifically. And I've made my opinion clear about this system if the reasoning is to mitigate liability.
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12.19.2011, 05:14 PM

If its about liability then the purchaser could just sign a waiver at the time of purchase, or if bought online maybe a "i agree to the terms of use" checkbox in order to proceed to checkout. My beef is not the use of an apple product, but the fact it is advertised on the box to go 100mph, but in order to actually go that fast you need an ipod. Seems kind of exclusive to me. Sure I could go buy a used ipod touch for around 150 off of craigslist, but I just paid a grand for a toy car that wont perform as advertised and now im broke, and to top it off my wife is pissed off because she found out i spent a grand on said toy car.


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12.19.2011, 05:16 PM

I think even a waiver is not going to work. See my previous thoughts on this in case you missed it:

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To be blunt, the lawsuit/liability thing is just bull****. This whole hobby is a lawsuit waiting to happen; you have lipos that can burn your house down if you don't treat them right, gears that can chomp a finger if you are stupid enough to go near them while it's running, voltages that can harm you (for HV people), currents that can generate enough heat to burn, and so on. And really, a ~10lb vehicle will hurt just as much doing 70mph into your ankle as 100mph. Idiots will get hurt and hurt others no matter what you do.
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If its about liability then the purchaser could just sign a waiver at the time of purchase, or if bought online maybe a "i agree to the terms of use" checkbox in order to proceed to checkout. My beef is not the use of an apple product, but the fact it is advertised on the box to go 100mph, but in order to actually go that fast you need an ipod. Seems kind of exclusive to me. Sure I could go buy a used ipod touch for around 150 off of craigslist, but I just paid a grand for a toy car that wont perform as advertised and now im broke, and to top it off my wife is pissed off because she found out i spent a grand on said toy car.
Chances are good that anyone buying this car, has a friend who has a iOS device. You only need to download the app and unlock the ESC once. After that you have full use of the car.
   
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12.20.2011, 11:14 AM

Someone asked if it could work with an iPad so here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e9VU...eature=related
   
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12.20.2011, 05:49 PM

The iPhone lock is a Traxxas 'feature' and not something Castle Creations has anything to do with. It would be more appropriate to voice your concerns on the Traxxas website. You will need to approach Traxxas on this, not Castle Creations.

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12.20.2011, 05:56 PM

Bernie, I think we all know that CC has no say on this, and that it's a Traxxas "feature". So, please don't think these comments are against you guys. And some have voiced our concerns at the Traxxas website.
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12.20.2011, 06:03 PM

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Chances are good that anyone buying this car, has a friend who has a iOS device. You only need to download the app and unlock the ESC once. After that you have full use of the car.
The point is, is that nobody should have to borrow/buy/use any device to use the car as advetised on the box.


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12.20.2011, 06:37 PM

Bryan, Thanks, we don't take it personally, I just find such a wast of time and server space. If you have a complaint, do it somewhere where it might do some good.

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