New traxxas castle mamba monster extreme?

[Pdelcast]

Originally Posted by anunaki

a nascar track banked to stop wind. a nascar track is a artificial environment for a rc car commercial advertizing a plastic 100mph 10 pound rc car take that plastic dohickey to 3 random parking lots and speed test it hahaaahaaaa.have your hobby shop on speed dial.it'll sell though

We've hit 100mph+ in our parking lot. It's tough, but doable in a standard parking lot.

[Unsullied_Spy]

I want the chassis, suspension, and the motor but not their lipos, radio, or a neutered ESC. If I've got some spare money (highly unlikely) in the next few months I may look for a roller but that all depends. I've got plenty of room to go run one and I'd like to have an onroader that handles but the XO-1 comes with too much baggage IMO.

[Unsullied_Spy]

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...-On-Road-Sedan

Wow, I actually forgot about the GTPs. Makes the XO-1 look a bit silly the more I think about it.

[_paralyzed_]

Originally Posted by Unsullied_Spy

Wow, I actually forgot about the GTPs. Makes the XO-1 look a bit silly the more I think about it.

Yeah, but the xo1 is 1/7 scale and the ofna is 1/8 scale. Having one less scale will make the traxxas much faster and more reliable. Need proof? 1/1 scale cars are very reliable and have way faster top speeds than r/c cars. The less scales the better.

Seriously though, with the gtp available buying a traxxas on roader makes as much sense as buying an $1100 hdmi cable.

[crazyjr]

Patrick, Are you saying the sensors are in the esc? I know temp and RPM will, but speed? How can you adjust for other vehicles?

[molak]

How is speed measured?

[DwightSchrute]

Originally Posted by molak

How is speed measured?

Speed is measured by calculating the distance you have gone and how long it took you to get there. speed = distance over time

on a side note, I think this new car looks cool but i think people are loosing sight that 100+mph for a speed vehicle isn't exactly uncharted territory. there are a handfull of us here and one vorza in x-treme rc magazine that can go into the triple digits for alot less money and still retain it's versatility with an 1/8 buggy.

in my mind all they are proving is that a 4x4 can break 100. there has been video of a few doing well over 90 on youtube for over a year. throw enough gear at it with a 1515 and there you go. you could probably do it fairly easily with a 2400 combo as well.

i too might try to find a roller, but i think the price tag of a grand is flat out silly.

Traxxas. The fastest name in radio control. Meh..... I would be much happier with: Brand X. The most reliable and durable name in radio control.

Seems to me all that Traxxas and HPI care about is what ridiculous number they can put on their boxes next to the mph. I am just over it. I can easily buy a better motor, better ESC and more powerful lipos to make my car go quick. What I need is a car that isn't going to fall apart or have it's drivetrain turn to dust. A car that is soundly engineered and even maybe a little over-engineered. Using Revo diffs was such a stupid call. They struggled in my E-Revo on 4S. Myfriend has even managed to destroy couple in his Slash 4x4. Now I know that was off road truck but the XO-1 will have a 1717 motor and running 6S. I see many people destroying a diff before they get through the first few days of owning this car.

Originally Posted by BIG-block

Traxxas. The fastest name in radio control. Meh..... I would be much happier with: Brand X. The most reliable and durable name in radio control.

Seems to me all that Traxxas and HPI care about is what ridiculous number they can put on their boxes next to the mph. I am just over it. I can easily buy a better motor, better ESC and more powerful lipos to make my car go quick. What I need is a car that isn't going to fall apart or have it's drivetrain turn to dust. A car that is soundly engineered and even maybe a little over-engineered. Using Revo diffs was such a stupid call. They struggled in my E-Revo on 4S. Myfriend has even managed to destroy couple in his Slash 4x4. Now I know that was off road truck but the XO-1 will have a 1717 motor and running 6S. I see many people destroying a diff before they get through the first few days of owning this car.

good point big block goood point.

Originally Posted by BIG-block

Traxxas. The fastest name in radio control. Meh..... I would be much happier with: Brand X. The most reliable and durable name in radio control.

Seems to me all that Traxxas and HPI care about is what ridiculous number they can put on their boxes next to the mph. I am just over it. I can easily buy a better motor, better ESC and more powerful lipos to make my car go quick. What I need is a car that isn't going to fall apart or have it's drivetrain turn to dust. A car that is soundly engineered and even maybe a little over-engineered. Using Revo diffs was such a stupid call. They struggled in my E-Revo on 4S. Myfriend has even managed to destroy couple in his Slash 4x4. Now I know that was off road truck but the XO-1 will have a 1717 motor and running 6S. I see many people destroying a diff before they get through the first few days of owning this car.

Completly agree, the car itself just looks a bit dull and cheaply made.
Im sure traxxas has the biggest profit margin on their car than any one else in the rc business.

[bruce750i]

Then it will be a $9.99 app that secretly tracks and reports your r/c activity back to Traxxas and or Castle. Big brother will be watching you R/c.

[Pdelcast]

Originally Posted by bruce750i

Then it will be a $9.99 app that secretly tracks and reports your r/c activity back to Traxxas and or Castle. Big brother will be watching you R/c.

LOL, that's pretty good.

[lincpimp]

The car does have an al chassis, all of the plastic chassis parts are basically an undertray for aerodynamic assistance. Plus they have a motor cooling duct on one side, that may also generate some down force.

I think you guys need to take a better look at this, they put alot of thought and design into it.

The diffs are the revo spec ones with the steel supports inside, and they are running a set of 1/8 buggy tires/wheels, which weigh at lest 2/3rd less than a std MT tire/wheel. Wheel and tire weight-force kills diffs. If the diffs are correctly assembled and the ring/pinion mesh is good I do not see why the diffs will have any issues.

I built a slayer a while back and ran the snot out of it, buggy wheels with buggy badlands. Never had the slightest bit of diff or driveshaft trouble, even after breaking numerous arms and blowing tires of the wheels. I really think the diffs will not be an issue here.

My concerns center around how strong the chassis will be, flexibility wise. I see they have a center support that the center driveshaft passes thru, and a top deck of some sort. Hope that keeps the flex down to a minimum.

And the 1717 on 6s will be plenty of motor to get 10lbs or so up to 100mph. Not so sure the 25c traxxas lipos will hold up, would prefer to see some 40c lipos there. I will be keeping the dual tray setup, as even weight distribution is key to going fast and being stable.

[TexasSP]

Originally Posted by lincpimp

The car does have an al chassis, all of the plastic chassis parts are basically an undertray for aerodynamic assistance. Plus they have a motor cooling duct on one side, that may also generate some down force.

I think you guys need to take a better look at this, they put alot of thought and design into it.

The diffs are the revo spec ones with the steel supports inside, and they are running a set of 1/8 buggy tires/wheels, which weigh at lest 2/3rd less than a std MT tire/wheel. Wheel and tire weight-force kills diffs. If the diffs are correctly assembled and the ring/pinion mesh is good I do not see why the diffs will have any issues.

I built a slayer a while back and ran the snot out of it, buggy wheels with buggy badlands. Never had the slightest bit of diff or driveshaft trouble, even after breaking numerous arms and blowing tires of the wheels. I really think the diffs will not be an issue here.

My concerns center around how strong the chassis will be, flexibility wise. I see they have a center support that the center driveshaft passes thru, and a top deck of some sort. Hope that keeps the flex down to a minimum.

And the 1717 on 6s will be plenty of motor to get 10lbs or so up to 100mph. Not so sure the 25c traxxas lipos will hold up, would prefer to see some 40c lipos there. I will be keeping the dual tray setup, as even weight distribution is key to going fast and being stable.

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You can bash TRX for a lot, but they really put effort into this car.

Yeah you can buy the ofna cheaper, but what will it take to get it too 100mph with full telemetry???? I can guarantee when your done you'll have at least 1k if not more into it. After all, the ofna is a roller nothing more and has none of the air control surfaces built in as the TRX car.

It's funny, everyone always complains that TRX never does anything new, just rehashes other designs (pretty much like every other RC company but nevermind that). When they do come up with an extremely well thought out and engineered design that is all new, people still bitch.

Traxxas hasn't really designed anything to get my heart pumping since the revo until this, so I give it up to them for nailing it well. They will sell these like hot cakes.

Like I said, my only hangup is the idevice requirement. However, seeing as used 3g's and 3gs's are everywhere for cheap, including the one my wife doesn't use, it's not a huge deal. I will still be okay when I decide to get one of these.

When you consider the package they put together, even at 1.1k, it's not a horrible deal.

MMM is 150, batteries would be in the 200 range, motor will probably sell for around 300, roller is probably a good 300 seeing all it has including the aluminum parts, telemetry system is at least 300. Right there you are at 1250 and I am sure there are things I missed.

Originally Posted by TexasSP

x2

You can bash TRX for a lot, but they really put effort into this car.

Yeah you can buy the ofna cheaper, but what will it take to get it too 100mph with full telemetry???? I can guarantee when your done you'll have at least 1k if not more into it. After all, the ofna is a roller nothing more and has none of the air control surfaces built in as the TRX car.

It's funny, everyone always complains that TRX never does anything new, just rehashes other designs (pretty much like every other RC company but nevermind that). When they do come up with an extremely well thought out and engineered design that is all new, people still bitch.

Traxxas hasn't really designed anything to get my heart pumping since the revo until this, so I give it up to them for nailing it well. They will sell these like hot cakes.

Like I said, my only hangup is the idevice requirement. However, seeing as used 3g's and 3gs's are everywhere for cheap, including the one my wife doesn't use, it's not a huge deal. I will still be okay when I decide to get one of these.

When you consider the package they put together, even at 1.1k, it's not a horrible deal.

MMM is 150, batteries would be in the 200 range, motor will probably sell for around 300, roller is probably a good 300 seeing all it has including the aluminum parts, telemetry system is at least 300. Right there you are at 1250 and I am sure there are things I missed.

more like 350 for elect and 150 for car and 500-600 - sallery in profit for retailers and traxxas.
the market will decide and if there is enough fuss about it people will buy, as im sure they will.

i still think this car is a bit expensive for what you get, the same with slash.