New traxxas castle mamba monster extreme?

[bruce750i]

Then it will be a $9.99 app that secretly tracks and reports your r/c activity back to Traxxas and or Castle. Big brother will be watching you R/c.

And the Patent-Pending Cush Drive™ is bacically the samt thing that hpi have used on their baja for ages, just downsized

[lincpimp]

The car does have an al chassis, all of the plastic chassis parts are basically an undertray for aerodynamic assistance. Plus they have a motor cooling duct on one side, that may also generate some down force.

I think you guys need to take a better look at this, they put alot of thought and design into it.

The diffs are the revo spec ones with the steel supports inside, and they are running a set of 1/8 buggy tires/wheels, which weigh at lest 2/3rd less than a std MT tire/wheel. Wheel and tire weight-force kills diffs. If the diffs are correctly assembled and the ring/pinion mesh is good I do not see why the diffs will have any issues.

I built a slayer a while back and ran the snot out of it, buggy wheels with buggy badlands. Never had the slightest bit of diff or driveshaft trouble, even after breaking numerous arms and blowing tires of the wheels. I really think the diffs will not be an issue here.

My concerns center around how strong the chassis will be, flexibility wise. I see they have a center support that the center driveshaft passes thru, and a top deck of some sort. Hope that keeps the flex down to a minimum.

And the 1717 on 6s will be plenty of motor to get 10lbs or so up to 100mph. Not so sure the 25c traxxas lipos will hold up, would prefer to see some 40c lipos there. I will be keeping the dual tray setup, as even weight distribution is key to going fast and being stable.

[lincpimp]

Ok, did some more reading and i have a question:

Does the Traxxas Link communicate with the MMM? Does it act as a type of castle link and allow for all of the esc adjustments to be done on the fly?

[TexasSP]

Originally Posted by lincpimp

The car does have an al chassis, all of the plastic chassis parts are basically an undertray for aerodynamic assistance. Plus they have a motor cooling duct on one side, that may also generate some down force.

I think you guys need to take a better look at this, they put alot of thought and design into it.

The diffs are the revo spec ones with the steel supports inside, and they are running a set of 1/8 buggy tires/wheels, which weigh at lest 2/3rd less than a std MT tire/wheel. Wheel and tire weight-force kills diffs. If the diffs are correctly assembled and the ring/pinion mesh is good I do not see why the diffs will have any issues.

I built a slayer a while back and ran the snot out of it, buggy wheels with buggy badlands. Never had the slightest bit of diff or driveshaft trouble, even after breaking numerous arms and blowing tires of the wheels. I really think the diffs will not be an issue here.

My concerns center around how strong the chassis will be, flexibility wise. I see they have a center support that the center driveshaft passes thru, and a top deck of some sort. Hope that keeps the flex down to a minimum.

And the 1717 on 6s will be plenty of motor to get 10lbs or so up to 100mph. Not so sure the 25c traxxas lipos will hold up, would prefer to see some 40c lipos there. I will be keeping the dual tray setup, as even weight distribution is key to going fast and being stable.

x2

You can bash TRX for a lot, but they really put effort into this car.

Yeah you can buy the ofna cheaper, but what will it take to get it too 100mph with full telemetry???? I can guarantee when your done you'll have at least 1k if not more into it. After all, the ofna is a roller nothing more and has none of the air control surfaces built in as the TRX car.

It's funny, everyone always complains that TRX never does anything new, just rehashes other designs (pretty much like every other RC company but nevermind that). When they do come up with an extremely well thought out and engineered design that is all new, people still bitch.

Traxxas hasn't really designed anything to get my heart pumping since the revo until this, so I give it up to them for nailing it well. They will sell these like hot cakes.

Like I said, my only hangup is the idevice requirement. However, seeing as used 3g's and 3gs's are everywhere for cheap, including the one my wife doesn't use, it's not a huge deal. I will still be okay when I decide to get one of these.

When you consider the package they put together, even at 1.1k, it's not a horrible deal.

MMM is 150, batteries would be in the 200 range, motor will probably sell for around 300, roller is probably a good 300 seeing all it has including the aluminum parts, telemetry system is at least 300. Right there you are at 1250 and I am sure there are things I missed.

[snellemin]

You forgot the tires. I don't have to look for grp's or ipanema anymore for my cars. I'll just buy the traxxas ones for my speed runners.

[suicideneil]

Originally Posted by lincpimp

Ok, did some more reading and i have a question:

Does the Traxxas Link communicate with the MMM? Does it act as a type of castle link and allow for all of the esc adjustments to be done on the fly?

Seemingly not- the esc relays the telemetry data to the rx ( via castle link live ), then the traxxas link software just displays this data on the iPoo. The tx settings can be adjusted & saved on the iPoo, but you don't have direct control over the esc settings from your radio or iPoo- you still need the castlelink/ fieldlink & a PC to make changes to throttle, brakes, timing etc etc.

That's the way I understand it to be anyway.

Originally Posted by TexasSP

x2

You can bash TRX for a lot, but they really put effort into this car.

Yeah you can buy the ofna cheaper, but what will it take to get it too 100mph with full telemetry???? I can guarantee when your done you'll have at least 1k if not more into it. After all, the ofna is a roller nothing more and has none of the air control surfaces built in as the TRX car.

It's funny, everyone always complains that TRX never does anything new, just rehashes other designs (pretty much like every other RC company but nevermind that). When they do come up with an extremely well thought out and engineered design that is all new, people still bitch.

Traxxas hasn't really designed anything to get my heart pumping since the revo until this, so I give it up to them for nailing it well. They will sell these like hot cakes.

Like I said, my only hangup is the idevice requirement. However, seeing as used 3g's and 3gs's are everywhere for cheap, including the one my wife doesn't use, it's not a huge deal. I will still be okay when I decide to get one of these.

When you consider the package they put together, even at 1.1k, it's not a horrible deal.

MMM is 150, batteries would be in the 200 range, motor will probably sell for around 300, roller is probably a good 300 seeing all it has including the aluminum parts, telemetry system is at least 300. Right there you are at 1250 and I am sure there are things I missed.

more like 350 for elect and 150 for car and 500-600 - sallery in profit for retailers and traxxas.
the market will decide and if there is enough fuss about it people will buy, as im sure they will.

i still think this car is a bit expensive for what you get, the same with slash.

[Pdelcast]

Originally Posted by anunaki

a nascar track banked to stop wind. a nascar track is a artificial environment for a rc car commercial advertizing a plastic 100mph 10 pound rc car take that plastic dohickey to 3 random parking lots and speed test it hahaaahaaaa.have your hobby shop on speed dial.it'll sell though

We've hit 100mph+ in our parking lot. It's tough, but doable in a standard parking lot.

[Pdelcast]

Originally Posted by bruce750i

Then it will be a $9.99 app that secretly tracks and reports your r/c activity back to Traxxas and or Castle. Big brother will be watching you R/c.

LOL, that's pretty good.

[Pdelcast]

Originally Posted by suicideneil

Seemingly not- the esc relays the telemetry data to the rx ( via castle link live ), then the traxxas link software just displays this data on the iPoo. The tx settings can be adjusted & saved on the iPoo, but you don't have direct control over the esc settings from your radio or iPoo- you still need the castlelink/ fieldlink & a PC to make changes to throttle, brakes, timing etc etc.

That's the way I understand it to be anyway.

Oh no no no, Castle Link Live allows for on-the-fly settings changes!!

[Semi Pro]

Originally Posted by Pdelcast

Oh no no no, Castle Link Live allows for on-the-fly settings changes!!

i love you




take that novak

[Semi Pro]

Originally Posted by TexasSP

x2

You can bash TRX for a lot, but they really put effort into this car.

Yeah you can buy the ofna cheaper, but what will it take to get it too 100mph with full telemetry???? I can guarantee when your done you'll have at least 1k if not more into it. After all, the ofna is a roller nothing more and has none of the air control surfaces built in as the TRX car.

It's funny, everyone always complains that TRX never does anything new, just rehashes other designs (pretty much like every other RC company but nevermind that). When they do come up with an extremely well thought out and engineered design that is all new, people still bitch.

Traxxas hasn't really designed anything to get my heart pumping since the revo until this, so I give it up to them for nailing it well. They will sell these like hot cakes.

Like I said, my only hangup is the idevice requirement. However, seeing as used 3g's and 3gs's are everywhere for cheap, including the one my wife doesn't use, it's not a huge deal. I will still be okay when I decide to get one of these.

When you consider the package they put together, even at 1.1k, it's not a horrible deal.

MMM is 150, batteries would be in the 200 range, motor will probably sell for around 300, roller is probably a good 300 seeing all it has including the aluminum parts, telemetry system is at least 300. Right there you are at 1250 and I am sure there are things I missed.

ty texas and linc

i was really geting sick of all the crying about this car, personaly i have an iphone and i love it, (its the only apple i have owned other than an i pod)
the fact that they set it up this way is a game changer in the industry, castle link live is crazy, im thrilled to see something like this come out, now everyone else is going to have to play catchup to traxxas and castle, it may breath new life into an industry that has been slowly dieing off again

just from that stand point i have decided to buy one

but i do wonder if the batterys will hold the car back, oh well they may just have to go in my slash lol, it doesnt hurt my feelings to have to pick up good batterys.

[Pdelcast]

Originally Posted by Semi Pro

i love you

Aww, I love you too!

[Unsullied_Spy]

The diffuser and the motor cooling slot are very nice design implements as far as the chassis, that's for sure. I keep going back and forth on this thing, it sounds like it's going to be far too expensive but if you can get one without the lipos and the extra nonsense that'd be OK. Surely someone at my LHS has an iPoS to remove the electronic nanny from the ESC. I don't think of it on the same level as the Revo, it's not that much of a game-changer. All-in-all it is definitely an accomplishment, but I'm not really sold on it.

For me, the make-or-break point will be the handling. My Hyper 7 TQ is set up for street use and is no slouch, but if all the work they put into the XO-1 pays off when you turn the wheel it could be worth selling my Hyper for it. The ride height of the XO-1 is a concern for me, most of those low-slung cars don't do very well unless you have a perfect surface to run it on. I loved my 3.3-powered Nitro 4-Tec but when you hit a crack or any imperfection in the surface it would spin out or go flying and I gouged the crap out of the chassis. Granted this was before our downtown parking garage was built and that is just an awesome place to take our onroaders, but everywhere else needs something with a little clearance and some give to the suspension (hence the Hyper).

Patrick: You've driven one, are you allowed to comment on how it handles? Both going around corners at bonkers speeds and real-world driveability?