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03.18.2009, 02:13 PM

I am guessing that is a risk Neil is willing to take


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Small correction to Bill's email.

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Its not a 5th scale unless its atleast 27in long in my opinion. Thats what most base 5th scales are without the measurement of the bumpers. My FSR 1/5 MT was 32in and they concidered it a 5th scale. All depends on the person really.


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Its not a 5th scale unless its atleast 27in long in my opinion. Thats what most base 5th scales are without the measurement of the bumpers. My FSR 1/5 MT was 32in and they concidered it a 5th scale. All depends on the person really.
I am looking at trying to go to 27-29" w/this idea. We shall see. It would be a fall project in any event.

The more I contemplate the idea, the more I am warming up to the idea of doing this


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03.19.2009, 12:24 PM

You should take a look into FS-Racing. Their stuff is cheap and In my opinion its quality.

Chassis I plan to use "chassis came with my 1/5 FSR mt", "solid as a rock"- http://www.fsracingusa.com/fs112125chassis.aspx

F-150 1/5 Body I plan to use "already have one but need another"- http://www.oversizerc.com/p/452928/f...l---black.html


The chassis I linked gives you plenty of room to move the front and rear assemblies back and forth to compensate with the wheelwell alignments. My 1/5 FSR MT was 32.5in long with a short bumper with that chassis and it wasnt even stretched along the chassis as long as it could be.
I would also like to get another set of rear and front center dogbones and cups. Their extremely reliable and their hardened steel.


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You should take a look into FS-Racing. Their stuff is cheap and In my opinion its quality.

Chassis I plan to use "chassis came with my 1/5 FSR mt", "solid as a rock"- http://www.fsracingusa.com/fs112125chassis.aspx

F-150 1/5 Body I plan to use "already have one but need another"- http://www.oversizerc.com/p/452928/f...l---black.html


The chassis I linked gives you plenty of room to move the front and rear assemblies back and forth to compensate with the wheelwell alignments. My 1/5 FSR MT was 32.5in long with a short bumper with that chassis and it wasnt even stretched along the chassis as long as it could be.
I would also like to get another set of rear and front center dogbones and cups. Their extremely reliable and their hardened steel.
Thanks for the link....it looks like the F&R ends will bolt right up. Maybe even the center.. I enjoyed making my own chassis before, but, with this one already done.....I may skip that part all together.


1. MBX-6 T8 1900KV, RX8 ON 4S
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3. MBX-5 ONROAD CONVERSION 1515, MMM ON 5S
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03.19.2009, 08:51 PM

Interesting idea taking a truggy as base for a 1:5th scale. I quickly fitted two truggy chassis plates together. Mounted half offset crimefighter truggy tires to extend width and took some measurements to compare them with popular 1:5 scale cars.

This is about the maximum length i got with 2 chassis plates: Wheelbase 700mm / 27.56 inches. Width 430mm / 16.54 inches. Obviously too long.


I then reduced wheelbase to baja 5 length: 570mm / 22.44 inches.


Compared to a baja it is still too narrow. Baja: 460/480mm opposed to 430mm. This can be corrected somewhat with wider wheel hubs. Truggy wheels (145mm) are smaller in diameter than 1:5 scale baja tires (170mm). To be able to use 1:5 scale tires would probably require custom made wheel hubs. The chassis would need a top deck to strenghten it and might need to be narrower to fit a baja body. At least one custom center cvd is required ... cutting an original one in two halves and lengthen it with a metal tube should be an option either. Shocks would have to be adapted to carry more load.

All in all i would say it can be done. Having this much space on a chassis to fit batteries is almost a dream come true. Wheight will most certainly exceed somewhat the weight of a Savage Flux which leads me to believe one might even have enough power with a Neu 1515 (around 3KW peak).
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03.19.2009, 08:58 PM

In all actuality it may end up a little short of the 1/5 scale I want, however, we shall see

Thanks for your comparison


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03.19.2009, 08:59 PM

Where could I get wheel extenders to use w/truggy wheels


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03.19.2009, 09:10 PM

Mugen MBX5T uses extended wheel hubs or look for King Headz Wheel Hubs +12.7mm.


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03.19.2009, 09:13 PM

very interesting, im curious to soo who goes through with this and how it drives.
   
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03.19.2009, 09:15 PM

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Mugen MBX5T uses extended wheel hubs or look for King Headz Wheel Hubs +12.7mm.
Thanks...I was thinking of using a mbx-5T as a base vehicle seeing as I have a mbx-5 and love it.

I will need toget the biggest shocks that will fit in it to help as well as some chassis braces to make it stiiff enough


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03.19.2009, 09:28 PM

You could use half offset truggy tires to increase width even further. A friend of mine drives an MBX5T which is as wide with standard offset tires as my Mantis truggy fitted with half offset tires.


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03.19.2009, 11:01 PM

I'll build one once CC puts out their 8-12 cell controller.

The 1/5 scale that I made from emaxx parts I ended up using two 7XL and two ESC. I like the idea of a single motor.
   
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Good luck mag.


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