Wow....is the only word that comes to mind about this..

[Bondonutz]

My great great grand parents came here in the late 1800's they had to learn (read and write) english why the hell can't the new immigrants whom are legal or not do the same ? Why do we have to change our well established rules to accomodate them ? I haven't much of a problem with new transplants except the ones whom come here and make no effort to be legal (Pay taxes, aquire a green card, etc)

If I went to Germany or Mexico I try my damnest to learn some of the language to get around with , it seems here they make zero effort ?

[reno911]

Well without enforcement it really doesn't matter. Unfortunately this is not the only problem this nation has at this point.

I give credit to Arizona though. They are the first to have a backbone and stand up against the Feds.

When the rest take this initiative, I don't know.

[josh9mille]

Originally Posted by suicideneil

Indeed, I do feel the urge to point out that pretty much 99% of 'Americans' are actually immigrants; can you imagine what would happen if a real native American became president and said 'right you lot, piss off!' ? It would be.... interesting....

That is true, we are almost all immigrants. But just because we have always let anyone move here, does mean we should continue to do so. I mean we are full, the cup runeth over, stop overfilling the cup. We dont need more people here. Also the whole Natives and African Americans being pissed off at us for taking thier land or using them as slaves is getting pretty old. They need to get over it and forget about it. I didnt take thier land, I didnt use them as slaves, nor did anyone I know, and I know nobody alive today or even 100yrs ago did either. Its been 150 years or so since whites owned slaves, they should stop being pissed about it. End of rant

[BrianG]

As far as slavery is concerned, wasn't it started by one of their own that sold them to "whitey"? Funny how that gets glossed over though. At any rate, no one in this generation enslaved this generation of black people, so they need to stop trying to play the race card just to get special rights and entitements.

As far as Native Americans are concerned, I feel for their ancestors. Honestly, I do. We had no right to come here and take over, and then "graciously" give them tiny allotments of land. But that's in the past now, and it's time to move on.

Illegal immigration is illegal. Period. Just the fact they are here sucking off the system and taking jobs (don't tell me that they only do jobs that Americans won't do because that's bull) boils me. Politicians are so concerned about not offending anyone and taking care of everyone else that we are ignoring our own people, which by the way are the ones that pay taxes to support these crooked politicians. Makes me damned ashamed to call myself an American sometimes.

[Finnster]

Originally Posted by josh9mille

That is true, we are almost all immigrants. But just because we have always let anyone move here, does mean we should continue to do so. I mean we are full, the cup runeth over, stop overfilling the cup. We dont need more people here. Also the whole Natives and African Americans being pissed off at us for taking thier land or using them as slaves is getting pretty old. They need to get over it and forget about it. I didnt take thier land, I didnt use them as slaves, nor did anyone I know, and I know nobody alive today or even 100yrs ago did either. Its been 150 years or so since whites owned slaves, they should stop being pissed about it. End of rant

Just a joke cameltoe ;)

I can't really get my outrage meter up on this one. I live where there are a ton if immigrants from all over (Phiily/NJ/NY) and everybody speaks some level of English (as well as a million other languages.) It seems like it pretty much takes a generation to integrate, but most people get there.

Anymore English is becoming the defacto world language and the language of prosperity. If you don't speak it, you won't go far in the global economy or in the US. That's incentive enough for most 1st gen families I've met to push their kids towards English.

Problem is there are so many immigrants all at once, we're a bit behind on the integration clock. Its happened before in US history (such as the hated Italians/Irish/Catholics) and this too shall pass.

[TexasSP]

The Native American thing as true as it is really doesn't apply to today. I didn't do it and no one is left that had it done to.

Most countries were immigrated to in the first place. Last I checked Great Brittain didn't originally have English speaking Limeys running around either. Spanish wasn't the primary language of South America either, and surely many parts of the Middle East were not Arabic.

You kind of have to focus on the here and now. That ebonics garbage will only fly so far, no one will get a serious job making good money talking like that less they be an athlete or rapper. Much past that your screwed. Same goes for talking like back woods white trash unless your Larry The Cable Guy (and if you ever heard him in real life he sounds nothing like his character).

Of course the smart ones learn to talk to their audience anyway. I can speak comfortably in almost any company by adjusting how I talk and words I use. I have black friends that can speak like a well breed Harvard White Boy but can brother it up around others. In fact one of the most articulate people I know can do both very well. The funniest to me is some coon ass friends that go from perfect white boy English to back woods Louisiana talk in the next sentence. Hell that stuff sounds like a whole different language anyway.

[Finnster]

Ut

Originally Posted by TexasSP

.. That ebonics garbage will only fly so far, no one will get a serious job making good money talking like that less they be an athlete or rapper. Much past that your screwed. Same goes for talking like back woods white trash unless your Larry The Cable Guy (and if you ever heard him in real life he sounds nothing like his character)...

That's true, its like volunteering to be poor.
I've met tons of FOB Indians and Africans who speak better English than some of the people that have been here for generations. 0_o

What's funny is we were selling my wife's old carSubaru on Craigslist recently, and as a goof I searched for "sh!t" and "F*%k" in the F/S section. I didn't actually expect to see many results, but the ones that came back were gold. (way more than I guessed.)

The best post was a guy who managed to nail the S-bomb, F-bomb, and the granddaddy N-bomb all in the same F/S post for some POS grand marquis with 24" rims.

i just took this jawn to dourney park yeserday i sware on my son... i did 110 miles per hour with the rims on the car!!! no shake none of that!!! my shit run like a complete monster and i will race a marq with stocks on it with my rims and still suck it up!!!, any way this jawn pretty as fuck!!, everybody turn they heads to look when it come threw and it dont have a system so its not the music they lookin for, they just see that eye candy lol, but this jawn got 130+ highway miles, i b back andfourth up 95 at least 3 times maybe 4 a week. but it got leathr ac, factory cd player and sound system, hot heat all the goods u gotta drive it, any way im selling for cheap cuz i got i for cheap,. no need to break a nigga pockets, its tight and i know it, if u got less thn 4500... dont call me please , cuz thats the best ima do... i got my eyes on something, so this can go, plus i HATE keepin cars for long n i had this one for a min, and im ready to depart from it, it got 24's with a nice lift and cut done at broad and cumberland the wheel thing, so holla 267 three zero four six three three three 304 6333 my name yung money , da color crazy.. its burgendy type maroon in day time, and purple looking at night, with the cream colerd rag top, its the gs collectors series, differnt from the other marquis u see in the hood, this one that the young buls and bitches like, and the old folk like .. it got class to it, lol

"Honey, what's a jawn?"
-" I don't know dear, we're too white and nerdy. Did you try urbandictionary.com?"
"Ah.. Thanks Honey, I found it"

You could actually pretty much guess what race, personality and/or class people were just by their car and post. This might be a good drinking game...
Clearly formatted and grammically accurate English selling a Subaru => Nerdy Whites. lol

[TexasSP]

That was funny right thar I tell ya I don't care who ya are!

[josh9mille]

Originally Posted by Finnster

Ut

That's true, its like volunteering to be poor.
I've met tons of FOB Indians and Africans who speak better English than some of the people that have been here for generations. 0_o

What's funny is we were selling my wife's old carSubaru on Craigslist recently, and as a goof I searched for "sh!t" and "F*%k" in the F/S section. I didn't actually expect to see many results, but the ones that came back were gold. (way more than I guessed.)

The best post was a guy who managed to nail the S-bomb, F-bomb, and the granddaddy N-bomb all in the same F/S post for some POS grand marquis with 24" rims.


"Honey, what's a jawn?"
-" I don't know dear, we're too white and nerdy. Did you try urbandictionary.com?"
"Ah.. Thanks Honey, I found it"

You could actually pretty much guess what race, personality and/or class people were just by their car and post. This might be a good drinking game...
Clearly formatted and grammically accurate English selling a Subaru => Nerdy Whites. lol

What kind of a name is "Yung Money"? Is he asian? I think I will spend the 10 cents in long distance and call that guy about his car.

Edit: So i called the guy and it went like this from what I can remember and actually comprehend:

phone ringing (ringback tone is some rap song)

Yung Money: Yo who dis?

Me: Yo yo yo I be callin about your Grand Marquis for sale.

Yung Money: I am tired of Motha Fuggas callin bout my damn car it be sold already

Me: Well why it still be on craigslist then?

Yung Money: I tooked it down but motha fuggas still be callin me and shyt.

Me: Wow that be a mystery.

Yung Money: Stop fuggin callin me bytch. (hangs up)

I encourage others to call him about his car as well!

[TexasSP]

That's even funnier than the original post, you should have recorded it!

[Finnster]

hahaha, that's awesome. I was thinking about calling and asking a bunch of stupid suburban hippie questions, like if he knew the recycled content of the car, if he could estimate the carbon footprint, and if the trunk could hold all my organic, free-trade groceries from Whole Foods. I'm guessing I won't get far. :)

[TexasSP]

Please finn do that and record it so we can here it all. The hippie thing would be classic!

[nitrostarter]

Originally Posted by Finnster

hahaha, that's awesome. I was thinking about calling and asking a bunch of stupid suburban hippie questions, like if he knew the recycled content of the car, if he could estimate the carbon footprint, and if the trunk could hold all my organic, free-trade groceries from Whole Foods. I'm guessing I won't get far. :)

Please record this phone call...

[snellemin]

Originally Posted by BrianG

As far as slavery is concerned, wasn't it started by one of their own that sold them to "whitey"?

Correct.

Even in Suriname history it was their own that would sell the maroons out to the "owners".

[Finnster]

Originally Posted by nitrostarter

Please record this phone call...

Called, got thru, asked a bunch of idiotic ?'s, got audio.
Hilarious... well at least cracked myself up anyway. ;)

Have to figure out how to.convert the .amr file to post first. Ill work on it tonite. Dont want to spoil details...