Talked to Castle About Monster Maxx

[glassdoctor]

Well, this is my take on the deal.... things could happen pretty quick...

The controllers are not the problem... it sounds like they have been ready for a while (though not tested). The hang up is the motor... they are working on getting a motor they are happy with and it's not there yet and there is no way of knowing when this will be resolved. They have sounded kinda frustrated when I have talked to them...trying to source/develop the right motor.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that in the end they can hook up with Steve Neu. And a little birdie told me that there is an outside chance this could happen... please please please....... :004:

(don't trace this back to me, hee hee :007: it's just a rumor... )

I'm waiting for them to go to beta stage... then I will get excited....

[Dafni]

So, has anybody had 5S on the MM yet?

[Serum]

I haven't heard of someone that did.. I have got some 5S packs to hook it up with.. the 8XL would be too hot i think.. Unless i put it in a serpent 1/8th.. Nice and light..

[Dafni]

If you don't gear it to the moon, I think it might work. Maybe a more efficient motor, though. Or at least a higher wind.

[cart213]

Originally Posted by glassdoctor

The controllers are not the problem... it sounds like they have been ready for a while (though not tested). The hang up is the motor... they are working on getting a motor they are happy with and it's not there yet and there is no way of knowing when this will be resolved. They have sounded kinda frustrated when I have talked to them...trying to source/develop the right motor.

My request to CC: SCREW THE MOTORS AND GIVE US THE MONSTER MAX ESC! :D

Seriously, though. We've got plenty of motors to choose from already. What we all really want is a reliable HV esc to run them with. I wish CC would launch the esc and make it a combo later.

[Procharged5.0]

I pressed Shawn pretty hard on Saturday afternoon on the same topics (but not as far as to ask about 6s) and received a very similar response. They are looking at the Neu motors as a model/target for the engineering of their motors. I was also told that the systems were some time off and that the motors were the primary holdup.

I think I'll buy a MM 4600, use the MM ESC in my Maxx but with a NEU motor and then later shift the MM & 4600 into my stadium truck when the MMM eventually arrives. Then 6s here we come!

Originally Posted by jhautz

I was at the International Hobby Expo in Chicago this weekend. Of course Castle Creations was there. I started asking questions about the Monster Maxx and at first they were not willing to provide much info on the new systems capabilities. But I kept probing with questions about small details and I got a little info that I thought that you all might find interesting.


I told them I was putting together a system and was trying to decide if I should wait for the Monster Maxx to come out or just go with something else and that if it was going to be in the next few months I would wait. The response was "I wouldn't wait then, I'd be surprised if was before next summer".

Then in talking about the system I wanted to set up I was discussing options on the market for controllers and I told him I wanted to run either 5s or 6s lipo. He then whispered "if you go with 5s and a high efficiency motor like a Nue, you can run the Mamba Maxx with an external BEC and it will handle it, but thats unofficial and I can't say that so don't tell anyone" (as he smiled). Then I asked if I want 6s I should wait for the Monster Maxx. He said "yea".


Not sure if this is new info, but I thought some of you might be interested in the hint at timing and 6s capability of the Monster maxx and also outside the specs capability of the Mamba maxx.

[glassdoctor]

dittos....

[jhautz]

Originally Posted by Serum

I haven't heard of someone that did.. I have got some 5S packs to hook it up with.. the 8XL would be too hot i think.. Unless i put it in a serpent 1/8th.. Nice and light..

He did say that it would handle 5s WITH A HIGH QUALITY EFFICIENT MOTOR. I would not call the feigao either one of these. He specifically recomended Neu motors. If you are going to try it, I would try it w/ a Nue or Lehner. Not a feigao!

[starscream]

If someone does try 5S on thier MM, I would be very interested in seeing the results.

[Dafni]

I'll keep you updated, Starholler. (I know I owe you a mail...:013: slacker that I am)

[Procharged5.0]

Originally Posted by jhautz

He did say that it would handle 5s WITH A HIGH QUALITY EFFICIENT MOTOR. I would not call the feigao either one of these. He specifically recomended Neu motors. If you are going to try it, I would try it w/ a Nue or Lehner. Not a feigao!

What are your thoughts on the MM with a Feigao 9L and 12 GP3300's?

that might be my starting point unless I have the $$ to drop on the NEU.

btw....anyone here have a NEU? Whats the best wind for use on a UE-EMAXX? I was thinking the 1500 series w/2200KV

[Serum]

@jhautz;

a neu is a 4 poles, meaning more stress on the drivetrain. The feigao's are good motors, and it's not their efficiency that is lacking.

Another thing;

It's not a matter of a high efficiency motor, it's about the current that the motor takes. as simple as that. If it works with a 99 percent eff. motor, it work with a 10 percent eff. as well. It's about the current they take, not about their efficiency.

[Procharged5.0]

Originally Posted by Serum

@jhautz;

a neu is a 4 poles, meaning more stress on the drivetrain. The feigao's are good motors, and it's not their efficiency that is lacking.

Another thing;

It's not a matter of a high efficiency motor, it's about the current that the motor takes. as simple as that. If it works with a 99 percent eff. motor, it work with a 10 percent eff. as well. It's about the current they take, not about their efficiency.

Correct, however it was clear to me that Castle was stating given a desired power level that the more efficient motor would be easier on the ESC which is true. 700w @ 80 amps vs 700w at 68 amps the second example would be less demanding on the esc (given a linear or relatively linear current draw vs power output).

I know U know that already, and your point about current draw is well placed. I just though a little clarification would help.

[jhautz]

Originally Posted by Procharged5.0

Correct, however it was clear to me that Castle was stating given a desired power level that the more efficient motor would be easier on the ESC which is true. 700w @ 80 amps vs 700w at 68 amps the second example would be less demanding on the esc (given a linear or relatively linear current draw vs power output).

I know U know that already, and your point about current draw is well placed. I just though a little clarification would help.

Yea... What he said....:018:

[Nick]

I would of thought it would run hot though. Seems hot on 3s for me.