Losi 2.0 Conversion

oh ok i understand what your doing now. i dont think i would of ever thought of that lol.

[Shark413]

Originally Posted by drkros3

oh ok i understand what your doing now. i dont think i would of ever thought of that lol.

Another thing to consider. all chassis have flex built into them. It enhances the handling by adding to the suspension. A good comparison would be a motocross bike, it has suspension like a buggy, but you also stand up a lot and let your knees act as a secondary suspension, same as the flex in the buggy chassis.

Also, the Losi 8ight 1.0 version also has chassis flex built into it, the 2.0 just has a slightly different flavor, and remember Losi sells optional aluminum braces for the 1.0 version, so they must not believe it impacts the chassis flex in a bad way. Just my 2 cents.

[SpEEdyBL]

I don't even used the front brace in my 8ight 1.0.

[Semi Pro]

looks good

[Shark413]

Originally Posted by Semi Pro

looks good

Thanks, now I just hope it doesn't rain so I can get out to the track this weekend.

[Sower]

Thanks for the paint info - too bad I don't have an airbrush!

[Shark413]

I got my plastic spur today so I was able to change out the steel gear on my smart diff. I Installed the diff (center) and took it out for a spin (street). It definetly feels like it hooks up better, driving on the street is actually a good test because there is so much more traction. Off power turn in was great. The brakes felt good and seemed to stop like they did with the stock diff. Below are some pictures of the inside of the diff, the smart diff inner parts will not fit in the standard diff case. Also a slight issue using the plastic spur, it is a bit wider than the steel spur, and at first there was some binding with the motor mount. After a few runs up and down the street it freed up and felt fine. I hope it stays dry this weekend so I can get some track time in.


Losi Smart Diff and plastic spur gears.


Inside the Smart diff.


Plastic spur is a bit wider, some of this extra width is on the motor mount side and binds slightly, until the high spots wear off.


You can see how close the plastic spur comes to the motor mount.

[SpEEdyBL]

Can you compare the quality of the plastic of the Losi spur vs. the kyosho spur? I was hoping the losi spur would be further away from the motor mount than the kyosho spur sits, but it appears it does not.

[Shark413]

Originally Posted by SpEEdyBL

Can you compare the quality of the plastic of the Losi spur vs. the kyosho spur? I was hoping the losi spur would be further away from the motor mount than the kyosho spur sits, but it appears it does not.

SpEEdyBL, I have run the Kyosho Plastic spurs on my first conversions so I can compare how they wear compared to the Losi spur. It's rained the last several weekend so I have not been able to get out to the track. Just running it up and down the street for now. I will let you know how it holds up. The two piece design is kind of cool, will save you a little time and less mess when swaping spurs.

[himalaya]

Does Losi have 48T or 49T plastic spurs? My Tekno Losi 8-T's motor mount is too far away from center diff to allow spur smaller than 48T.
Plastic spur must be much quieter than steel, makes the truggy feel even more "electric". I love that style.

[Shark413]

Originally Posted by himalaya

Does Losi have 48T or 49T plastic spurs? My Tekno Losi 8-T's motor mount is too far away from center diff to allow spur smaller than 48T.
Plastic spur must be much quieter than steel, makes the truggy feel even more "electric". I love that style.

himalaya, because they had to swap the diff around on the chassis and there is no cutout on the chassis in the new position the largest spur you can run with the Losi conversion is 45T. Losi currently makes three plastic spurs 45, 44 and 43 teeth. You can use thicker spacers to raise the diff for more clearence or you can cut a hole in the chassis, but that has it's own problems, higher CG, more angle on the driveshafts, weaker chassis (with another cutout), etc. I am running the 45T spur and a 13T pinion it is very fast, has good acceleration, and is running cool so far (a few street runs only).

[Shark413]

One thing to keep in mind for those thinking about the Losi Smart Diff, I am running it in the center but I ordered a front diff. The reason is if you order a center Smart diff you get a 48T sput that can't be used in the 8ight-E. With the Losi Smart front diff I removed the ring gear (which can be used in the front as a spare) and replaced it with the Losi plastic 45T spur. The only difference is you won't have the brake flats on the outdrives but I don't care because I am running motor brake.

Great thread, can't wait to hear how it all performs at the track.

[Shark413]

One more thing regarding the Smart diff, the diff case is different from the standard Losi diff case, so the Smart diff internals won't fit. But the optional Losi HD diff case looks like a match. I ordered a HD diff case and should have it soon, I will try and fit the Smart diff internals in the HD case and confirm if it fits or not. If so you can save about half on the smart diff by just ordering the internal Smart diff parts and the HD diff case.

[Shark413]

Confirmed, the Losi Smart diff internals fit in the HD diff case. Also I checked the Smart Diff parts list and the part numbers are the same (Smart diff case and HD diff case). But it really doesn't save you any money unless you reuse your ring or spur gear. Because the individual parts just about equal the cost of a compete Smart diff.


Here are the part #'s for the individual internal parts, and you will also need the internal springs as well. The one that is covered is part #3604.


Everything fits (Smart diff internal parts into the HD diff case).