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02.09.2008, 11:04 PM
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4S with the new motor will top out right at 30mph, but on 6S will go up to 45mph.
This all depends on temps of course. Perhaps 5S will be the sweet spot at 38mph.
This setup really has some good acceleration. Makes for a fun basher.
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5s sounds good, I may have to try out the higher kv axi. I will do some more testing with the hacker 15l befoer that though!
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02.12.2008, 06:44 PM
Well the AXI 2826/8 motor came in. I got it installed.
Took it outside to try it, and I can't tell anything really. It's been storming ice here for the past two days. My dirt mounds are hard as a rock and all the maxx wants to do is spin and throw ice chunks around.
On the brighter side, it does appear to be alot more aggressive with this motor. It's going to power it really good. The only thing I'm curious about is motor temps.
@Linc,
Where did you get those heat sinks you had attached to the Monster Pro I got from you? What did you glue them with?
I'm thinking about installing a square heat sink over the open mounting hole in the motor plate, then attach a 25mm fan to it. This will help with temps in the motor AND clutch department at the cost of only .5 oz.
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02.12.2008, 06:48 PM
That esc actually came to me with the heatsink on it. I found some similar on ebay. Those had a sticky thermal pad, which is porbably worthless. I would say some arctic silver would do the job for sticking the heatsink to the motor mount.
Are you running the cooling fan on the axi? Is it getting too hot?
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02.12.2008, 06:58 PM
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That esc actually came to me with the heatsink on it. I found some similar on ebay. Those had a sticky thermal pad, which is porbably worthless. I would say some arctic silver would do the job for sticking the heatsink to the motor mount.
Are you running the cooling fan on the axi? Is it getting too hot?
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Yes I'm running the cooling fan on the motor.
I'm not worried about temps with 4S, but I would rather prepare to keep temps under control on 6S. It's gonna kick butt. My 6S battery setup is 5000mah, 20C and weighs 14.2oz. With 6S, the motor will be carrying more of a load.
The fan pulls air through the windings, which on the 8 turn, there seems to be a greater amount of air moving. The stator poles aren't quite so full is my guess as to why, plus the higher rpm's.
The fan takes care of endbell temps and the surface of the windings, the rest of the heat goes out through the motor bearing holder and into the mounting plate.
I need to block off the other motor hole in the plate to keep dirt out of there anyway. Why not turn it into something good for the setup?
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02.12.2008, 08:15 PM
Do you run with the spur gear cover on? I never bother, as my body usually keep the bulk of the dust/grime out. Pluss I like to be able to see the gears.
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02.12.2008, 08:24 PM
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Do you run with the spur gear cover on? I never bother, as my body usually keep the bulk of the dust/grime out. Pluss I like to be able to see the gears.
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In the beginning, I didn't. But decided to keep it on there.
The mod 1 gears are great and showing no wear as of yet. I figure dirt getting caught in the mesh will cause the most amount of wear. Keeping the cover on will prolong the life of the gears.
I'll open it up every now and then and take a peek though.
I took the endbell off both the 10 turn and the 8 turn to do some side by side comparison. They are twins except for the fact that the 8 turn's stator poles look like a good balance between fill and just enough space for good air flow. The 10 turn stator poles are just as full as possible.
I wanna do a Traxxas Villian Boat with a pair of these AXI 2826/8 motors, a CC BEC, a pair of MM ESC's, and a 4S 10,000mah Lipo setup. They have enough torque to get it up far into the "fun" zone.
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02.12.2008, 08:33 PM
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I wanna do a Traxxas Villian Boat with a pair of these AXI 2826/8 motors, a CC BEC, a pair of MM ESC's, and a 4S 10,000mah Lipo setup. They have enough torque to get it up far into the "fun" zone.
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HAHA
That think will fly. I can't see the supervee motor being as powerful as one of those axi motors. You should easily get that boat over 50mph, which will be ridiculous. I hope the boat can keep up with that kind of power. My supervee's hull is completely out of the water at 42mph, I really can't see it going any faster and still stay upright!
Do you have the boat yet? You might be able to get away with the sidewinder esc, it is half the cost of the mm, just not sure if it is 4s capable? You can set the lvc to the same values as the mm so it should be good for 5s! I got mine for 65 bucks from tower, that 130 for two and you may be able to get the axi motors cheap too. So far my sidewinder runs cooler than my MM did in the xxx-cr. Not sure why, maybe the heatsink is on better?
That boat would be wicked!
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02.12.2008, 08:40 PM
[QUOTE=lincpimp;148744]HAHA
That think will fly. I can't see the supervee motor being as powerful as one of those axi motors. You should easily get that boat over 50mph, which will be ridiculous. I hope the boat can keep up with that kind of power. My supervee's hull is completely out of the water at 42mph, I really can't see it going any faster and still stay upright!
Do you have the boat yet? You might be able to get away with the sidewinder esc, it is half the cost of the mm, just not sure if it is 4s capable? You can set the lvc to the same values as the mm so it should be good for 5s! I got mine for 65 bucks from tower, that 130 for two and you may be able to get the axi motors cheap too. So far my sidewinder runs cooler than my MM did in the xxx-cr. Not sure why, maybe the heatsink is on better?
I have two MM escs now, but one of them has issues I think. I may send it in for repair. It will still run a motor, but I hooked it up to a Feigao 6xl one time and seen some smoke come out of it. So, I don't think I can trust it.
I've been looking into how to build a watercooled motor plate. I'm also putting some thought into how to water cool the esc's. I might go with something other than the MM's. I'm not sure yet.
I've been tempted to put the good MM I have in the E maxx. With the new firmware update, it just might do a pretty good job. Whatcha think?
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02.12.2008, 08:42 PM
No I don't have the boat yet.
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02.12.2008, 08:57 PM
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I've been tempted to put the good MM I have in the E maxx. With the new firmware update, it just might do a pretty good job. Whatcha think?
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I would stick to 4s, but give it a try. It would be nice to see how it compares to the quark after the firmware update.
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02.14.2008, 07:57 PM
I finally got a chance to run the AXI 2826/8 motor in this setup.
It outperforms the 2826/10 by alot. A pretty large increase in top speed. I don't notice any decrease in torque, but it does run cooler. I didn't expect cooler temps. I am going to contribute this to better air flow since the stator poles don't appear to be quite so "stuffed" as with the 10 turn motor.
The 8 turn spools up fast enough to put it on it's lid very quickly. Gotta kinda watch that itchy finger now.
Out of the two motors, the 8 turn is definately the way to go.
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02.15.2008, 11:28 AM
Did you run the 8 turn on the sony cells or your lipos?
Glad to hear that it works well, and the temps stay in check.
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02.15.2008, 12:03 PM
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Did you run the 8 turn on the sony cells or your lipos?
Glad to hear that it works well, and the temps stay in check.
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I ran the 8 turn on the Sony Cells yesterday afternoon and just ran it on a Firepower 4S 5000mah 20C setup.
Runtimes are about the same with both battery setups.
I like how the truck handles with the lipos better. A little less weight does make a difference, especially in handling and jumping.
I am very happy with this setup. I believe it to be "track worthy" now.
Got another Tower Hobbies order on the way. I put together everything to do the two speed kit with. While I was completing the order, the 13 tooth idler that I had on MY list, suddenly went on backorder. Ugh!
I completed the order though. I have a couple of complete transmissions in it for the New E maxx.
My next new project will be eliminating the slipper and going Direct Drive to input shaft with an outrunner setup.
If I can make it fit, I'm going to install the AXI 4120/14 turn!
It runs very cool and at 660kv, it should make for a Wild setup on 6S. Even on 4S, it should perform very well. It will be more of a top speed setup.
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02.16.2008, 02:03 PM
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These Servo's are GREAT!
I detect no jitter. They are MUCH more powerful AND faster than the stock ones.
I rate them a 10 on the "money well spent" scale.
I'll probably be getting some more soon.
Let us know what you think Linc. Like I said, I don't have any experience comparing servos really. But I can't imagine those $100 each servo's being much better than these. Very satisfied here ! 
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I just got done with installing these servos and they are great.......on the carpet stand still they turn stop to stop great........you can see the chassis flex some from the torque
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02.16.2008, 02:23 PM
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I just got done with installing these servos and they are great.......on the carpet stand still they turn stop to stop great........you can see the chassis flex some from the torque
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I just took my Revo out for a drive. These servo's kinda have me spoiled from running them in the E maxx. I'm gonna get a pair for the Revo too.
They do make a big difference.
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