Best Chassis, etc for a e-revo racer

well we cant please everyone all the time, and everyone is entitled to his/her opinion.
as for the G2R, it does have its down falls as well.
-for 1 it has no kick or anti squat.
-as far as using an emaxx tranny, thats only an option for the quick and easy build. the emaxx tranny is easy to install, but id far from the ideal tranny for real power
-the g2r has different motor mount options, high, higher or high on the other side
i am not knocking the gmaxx chassis, it is an easy conversion for the general public. we dont go down that road, we prefer to blaze new trails and try new ideas. not all are good ideas, or even functional ideas, lol, but thats what makes this hobby fun for us

[coolhandcountry]

What do you consider real power?

Originally Posted by coolhandcountry

What do you consider real power?

we were part of the original test set of the ultramaxx gears and even those failed with some of the dual motor high cell count setups

[starscream]

Originally Posted by emaxxjeremy

well we cant please everyone all the time, and everyone is entitled to his/her opinion.
as for the G2R, it does have its down falls as well.
-for 1 it has no kick or anti squat.
-as far as using an emaxx tranny, thats only an option for the quick and easy build. the emaxx tranny is easy to install, but id far from the ideal tranny for real power
-the g2r has different motor mount options, high, higher or high on the other side
i am not knocking the gmaxx chassis, it is an easy conversion for the general public. we dont go down that road, we prefer to blaze new trails and try new ideas. not all are good ideas, or even functional ideas, lol, but thats what makes this hobby fun for us

Hey jeremy,
I admire the invovation and look of this truck but I can't speak to its race potential yet (I'd be happy to review it if you sent me a chassis :028: ). I am sure that if this chassis is setup properly, its a beast on the track. I understand you can't cater to everyone's needs but some of us are needier than others :005: I picked up some A123 packs that need some extra elbow room so thats where my concern come from.

I am an avid racer and am always looking for improvements so I appreciate your work.

I have a few quetions on this truck. You mention kick and squat characteristics of the chassis. How much difference in kick does this chassis have compared to the stock Revo/G2R (I can't quite tell from the pics)? From the pictures, it actually looks like there is kick in the front and rear. Also, is squat tammed by your chassis design or the center diff, or both (I assume the center diff)?

I'll be very interested to see completed pics of this bad boy :017:

real power happens over 2000 watts. Around 2500watts you get some real action.

The reason for no packs on both sides...well its lipo only. Only need one pack, so thats about it. This chassis has a lower CG than the G2R. Dont take this as me trying to sell you one over anything else out there. It makes no difference if you buy one or make your own. I will be the first person to send you to the gorrillas if I dont have what ya want, Mike will hook you up with one. We dont take the easy way out and buy something off the shelf, because we can do it ourself...In our core group off guys workin on this project, we have the absolute elite builders in the industry. Is it perfect? No. None are. If someone can drive my truck and tell me its not balanced, they can have it, period. It doesnt use an e-maxx tranny because honestly we hate them. We have broke every rotating part in them, including the 6mm output shaft. It doesnt have the slipperential, but we dont need or want slipper(not knocking Mikes idea, it looks cool).

The oil weights are all measured by a standard. You will get variances with air bubbles, but 10k is 10K. And yes, 300K sounds high because it is. Turn it upside down and come back the next day and it wont spill out...that kinda thickness. Anything less unloads the front end violently.

[starscream]

I can see why the emaxx trannies don't hold up.
I've always used nitro trannies and haven't had a problem (tmaxx, revo)
I'm not running 2000 watts though, 1200 at the most

How are the front and rear diffs holding up tp that kind of power?

Originally Posted by starscream

How are the front and rear diffs holding up tp that kind of power?

that will have to be seen over time. hopefully mike will have a solution for that soon :004:
here is a snipit of well executed pure throttle control.:027: some say too much power.....nah
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfq-blTeBMg

[Serum]

It would be more impressive it it did that with 10K oil in the centerdiff.. LOL


real power starts at 2000 watts? i personally don't think so; it all depends on the weight of the vehicle.. 2500 watts in a 6 kg heavy truck isn't that much. i personally like a lightweight truck in terms of acceleration/durability. My 2250 wasn't all that impressive. It was simple too heavy. It's nice for high speed runs, but what's the use for a truck that is too heavy and too powerful for it's own drivetrain.

My maxx on 5S it weighted a little over 7lbs, and it was a rocket.. while the batteries 'only' did 1500 watts.. (more than a OS .30, but still, relative low powered for electric)

It's all about controllable power, not about useless power..

Good thing it doesn't use a schulze.... < GRIN >

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One thing i must hand the bigmaxximum was it's torque. It's impressive, but it's got this nasty startup cog.. (that magnetic resistance that needs to be overcome.. ) how is that on the mamba-maxx?

I would make the lipo tray interchangeable and available in different sizes.. Future customers would thank you for that. All lipo manufacturers use different sizes.. (which is a true PITA when you design a chassis) i see you used Enerland cells, which is a good reference, but still; make either the batteryholder flexible in size, or make different sizes...

unusable power is way more fun, but yes useless on the track. with the 100k in it it pancaked the front tires and would hardly get forward momentum. gearing at this point is ball park. it would probably need to be tamed down a bit for the track. i am running the maxximum(or minimum as brian calls it) on 4s, that seems a bit more reasonable for power. one thing that brian never has and never will hear is that his trucks are underpowered.:005:

the battery trays are a seperate piece and attatch to the chassis, so they could be made with different pockets for different cells. thats up to brian if he wants to go thru all that.

[Serum]

Okay, i see; an adjustable case would be nice..

So, how is the minimum running on the MM, i thought of using that motor too. But the startup cog with the bigmaxx and the 18.97 is what makes me worry.. A Lehner is much smoother in starting You know, there are actually two types of the plettenbergs, one with a tall fan (usually black/very dark blue in colour, hard to tell from pics) and one with a small fan (blue in colour) i was always curious why this is... Why on earth am i telling this.. arh, maybe i am just curious what type you are using and if it runs cool or not on 4 S.... The maxximum on 4S is more than enough power for a revo IMO. . With good cells (such as the enerlands) it's a bomb.. using 1/8th diffs would actually need thinner oil than the stock diffs, but i also noticed 100K is a tad too thin with 37/13 diffs.. Pancakes indeed.. the 300k peanut butter isn't working miracles either..

[coolhandcountry]

Did you break a steel output or a aluminum?
I have did the aluminum myself.
I have put a fair share of power thru an emaxx trans.
I am not stranger to power.

[GorillaMaxx360]

-might be to late did not read all of the posts- but if you like the stock revo chassis go with the extended vantage chassis it is very cool and light and would draw more attention unless you were planning on welding battery trays or something on to the other. My vote is for the gmaxx one but if you do go stock revo id go vantage. Just my opinions sorry if this reply was late.

Broke the steel uppers and lowers, never touched the aluminum.

Serum, with 10K oil in the center diff, I doubt it would get to top speed in 100feet...seriously. It doesnt cogg enough to notice, I can run it 2mph with no issues at all. It runs cold. The battery trays hold a good many of different cells, but not all of them of course. I have no plans of making 20 different trays to accept every combination. Why? No money in it, and it was built and tested for these cells. For the amount of time and materials it takes to make 1 chassis, I can make triple the money in a different industry. Thats the bad thing about RC, you can perfect it and get everything perfect and a work of art....but no one will pay for it. I will make it hold 50s lipo if someone wants to pay for it. :028:

[Serum]

You call it impressive with 300K in the centerdiff that it wheelies like that; i wasn't suggesting to use 10K oil, i said it would be more impressive if it did that with wheelie with 10K..

I am not suggesting to make 20 different trays either, i am suggesting to make 1 tray that is flexible.

It's the startup cog i am talking about with the bigmaxximum; Since it has got a huge magnetic resistance. I know the schulze had a startup cog.. Especially when it was geared rather tall.

this is what the mamba-maxx is capable of on a 6 poler