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Hacker motors... - 02.15.2008, 07:57 AM

hi everyone,

I just wanted to ask what people's opinion's of the Hacker brushless motors are, i know they're pretty popular with rc aircraft, but Neu or Pletty seems to be the go with trucks.

How would the performance of this motor: http://www.impaktrc.com/product_info...oducts_id=2343
compare with things such as the Neus and Plettys on 6s?

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02.15.2008, 11:45 AM

I have a few hacker motors (12 or so!) and think that they are great motors. They are definately a big step up from a feigao. Not sure if they are as good as a neu or lehner motor. I have a plett maximum, and have been happy with its performance, plus it stays very cool too.

I do not think that the hacker c50 9l motor is worth $285 though. A feiao l can is about 60 bucks, and hacker motors can be found used for around 100 bucks. They are definately worth it for 100 bucks, but I am sure that if I had to buy a motor brand new it would be a neu or lehner. Neu seem to be the best bet as they are made in the US and have decent service from what I hear.

I have a feeling some of the other members will chime in and tell you that the hacker motors are not as good as the Neu motors. I am sure that they are right, and the prices are soo close that the hacker ends up being too expensive.

I will say that the hacker motors work well with the mm, where as the neu motors may have some issues, depending on gearing and vehicle weight.
   
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02.15.2008, 11:50 AM

Wow! $285 for an L can motor? You might as well get a Neu or LMT for that price (depending on where you are from)!

And from various reports, the Neus seem to work fine with the MM now that the new software is out, but like linc said, it depends on how crazy you get with the gearing...
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02.15.2008, 01:59 PM

That price is way out of line, hackermakes a nice motor, maybe 200 bucks for an xl, but almost 300 for a l can is crazy. I really need to buy a neu motor and try it out so that i can see the difference.
   
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02.15.2008, 11:00 PM

The hacker motors (C50 L's usually) used to be really popular in MT's where I race . They're pretty well built, and are better than the feigao's, but aren't great value. Guys here that don't want to spend so much on a motor have usually been buying feigaos in the last couple of years and two guys have used align's.
A couple of guys have recently gone from hacker to plettenburg maximum with fan, and prefer the pletty. Another likes his lehner 1940 over the hackers he used to use. I'm the only guy here at the moment using a neu and I really like it, but I've never owned a hacker to compare it too.
Basically if you can get a hacker for a price half way between a feigao and neu/pletty/lehner it might be worth it, but if you have to pay close to the price of neu/pletty/lehner, I wouldn't get the hacker. $286 for C50 L is too much.


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02.16.2008, 12:07 AM

I will chime in and agree with what most have already sadi here. I have a Hacker 9xl and really like it. Of course I got it used from a boat guy for about $110 so thats why I got it. I wouldnt have spent $300 on it thats for sure.

I also have Lehner, Neu and Feigao motors to comare it to. Its a HUGE step up from a Feiago based motor. Not even a comparision IMO. They run with about the same power as the Feigao, but much, much cooler. The Lehner and Neu are the cream of the crop though. If you are considering spending that much go the the Neu or Lehner for sure. If you run across a deal on a Hacker they are for sure solid motors and a giant step up from the low end feigaos.


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Jhautz, would you say the difference from the hacker to the neu is the same from the feigao to the hacker? Or is the neu a little bit better, while the hacker is way better than a feigao?

I would like to buy a big neu to play with, but just can't see dropping the cash for one. I recently scored a big aveox motor brand new and intend to run it in my savage on 8s. It is an 1100 kv motor.

It seems like the benifits of a better, more effecient motor are more obvious in a lower voltage system. I am guessing that the amp spikes and current requirements show the benifit of the high grade motors more than the lower current draw and relatively smooth draw that a hv setup produces.
   
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Jhautz, would you say the difference from the hacker to the neu is the same from the feigao to the hacker? Or is the neu a little bit better, while the hacker is way better than a feigao?

I would like to buy a big neu to play with, but just can't see dropping the cash for one. I recently scored a big aveox motor brand new and intend to run it in my savage on 8s. It is an 1100 kv motor.

It seems like the benifits of a better, more effecient motor are more obvious in a lower voltage system. I am guessing that the amp spikes and current requirements show the benifit of the high grade motors more than the lower current draw and relatively smooth draw that a hv setup produces.
From what I have observed with my Hacker 9xl, 10xl and 8L I would say they are just 1 notch below the Neu and Lehner, but the Hackers are 3 notches above a Feigao. This is with relation to the amount of heat they generate. If you have a Hacker XL motor that is working well for you, I dont think you will see any giant leaps when you go to Neu or Lehner Like you would going from a Feigao. But you may be able to carry an extra tooth or 2 on a similar kv Neu if you really want to push a setup.

I am perfectly happy with my Hacker and am not rushing to replace it for lack of any performance. I currently have it setup in my whipping boy buggy. The one that I just beat the snot out of and it just keeps going and going.

On the other hand.... Once you go Neu you will never want to buy anything else for you prime setups. The rest just become experimentaly motors.


BTW: My Hackers are B50 series, not C50. So I am running the RCM Clamp/Heatsink for the clamoing function, not so much for the heatsink function.


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02.16.2008, 04:21 AM

thanks guys, that clears things up. I've got some q's about lehner motors now but i might start another thread to avoid confusion with the title.
   
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02.16.2008, 04:33 AM

Lehner motor as top shelf just like a Neu IMO. They have pluses and minus vs Neu.

Plus: The Lehner are 2 pole and run great on just about ANY brushless controller, they are standard 36mm diameter so they "fit" better into some tight spaces.

Downside: The front plate is rather shallow and you have to be VERY carfull with the length of the mounting screws you use, and if you ever need anything on them it is a MAJOR pain in the a$$ to get it serviced. They are just about as slow as they can possibly be. I sent email inquiries to them asking about service on one of my motors and it took them 2 weeks just to answer the email and they basically told me send it in and they would let me know how long it would take.


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