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High Speed XTM BL buggy - 03.31.2008, 08:42 PM

Well guys , I finished my XTM MMT BL conversion and I love it. Loved it so much I thought I would try to build a very high speed XLB buggy. This thing is BIG......16"+ wheelbase and factory swaybar. I think with the right parts 100mph could be reached. Just picked it up today so not much in the way of the build, but at least you can see where its starting from. I'm sure when Aqwut sees this he will recognize the speed controller 12S lipo going on this one but not sure if I will stick with this controller or swap in my HV110 and put this one on my MMT.







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04.01.2008, 01:14 AM

Very cool. Its actually a very stable driving buggy. I did one of these about a year and a half ago. I didnt go white as high power as you are planning though. I've not seen another one converted so I'm looking forward to seeing your results.

Here is a link to a vid I made of the first time I ran it and the build thread I did.

http://s66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...05-06_0001.flv

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04.01.2008, 01:24 AM

What motor mount did you use?? I need 2 of them asap for another project...same chassis.


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Very cool. Its actually a very stable driving buggy. I did one of these about a year and a half ago. I didnt go white as high power as you are planning though. I've not seen another one converted so I'm looking forward to seeing your results.

Here is a link to a vid I made of the first time I ran it and the build thread I did.

http://s66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...05-06_0001.flv

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...&highlight=xlb
Hey Jeff, did you ever get the 2 speed pinion figured out? Any tests done since?
   
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Very awesome, I wanted to do one of these but was worried about not having enough room to run it. I have a Hobbypeople 10 miles from me and I look at the box everytime I'm there. Jzemaxx, definitely keep us posted.

Jhautz, your last post on your thread was in 11/06? Any new updates on this beast? Still have it or sell it? Looks like Mike custom machined the motor mount for ya. Man, that looked beautiful.
   
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What motor mount did you use?? I need 2 of them asap for another project...same chassis.
I drew it up and had Mike machine it for me. I unfortunatly dont have the drawings for it any more though. Damn hard drive crash a few months ago and I lost a bunch of my older drawings and such. Mike might still possibly have it around, but If I remember correctly I had a slight miscalculation on one of the screw holes in it and it took some "creative" adjustments to get it all bolted up properly. SO if he does still have it its probably not exactly right anyway.

EDIT: Although if Mike has done one for a XTM Mamoth, its exactly the same setup. I think I remember seeing something posted that he made for someone.

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Hey Jeff, did you ever get the 2 speed pinion figured out? Any tests done since?
Yea. The one I made was working like a charm. But its easy now. Mike sells a 2 speed pinion setup with a whole range of gears for them too. I actually pilfered the 2 speed pinion off o the XLB when I built my DM1, and then mike came out with his 2 speed pinion setup and I got a set from him. I still havent put the XLB back together again. The motor and speed controll were pilfered for another project as well. I keep meaning to put it all back together again, but I just never seem to get around to it. Maybe when the MMM combo gets released I'll just get one to drop in and run it.... but I'll probably get into some other project and it'l sit for another 6 months before I actually get around to it.


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I drew it up and had Mike machine it for me. I unfortunatly dont have the drawings for it any more though. Damn hard drive crash a few months ago and I lost a bunch of my older drawings and such. Mike might still possibly have it around, but If I remember correctly I had a slight miscalculation on one of the screw holes in it and it took some "creative" adjustments to get it all bolted up properly. SO if he does still have it its probably not exactly right anyway.

EDIT: Although if Mike has done one for a XTM Mamoth, its exactly the same setup. I think I remember seeing something posted that he made for someone.



Yea. The one I made was working like a charm. But its easy now. Mike sells a 2 speed pinion setup with a whole range of gears for them too. I actually pilfered the 2 speed pinion off o the XLB when I built my DM1, and then mike came out with his 2 speed pinion setup and I got a set from him. I still havent put the XLB back together again. The motor and speed controll were pilfered for another project as well. I keep meaning to put it all back together again, but I just never seem to get around to it. Maybe when the MMM combo gets released I'll just get one to drop in and run it.... but I'll probably get into some other project and it'l sit for another 6 months before I actually get around to it.
Hmm I will email and ask. As for the pinions, do you have a link of where Mike has them on the site? Does Mike have a telephone # to call and order?


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04.01.2008, 12:03 PM

For the two speed setup, you need the following:

- Adaptor
- First Gear choices
- Second gear choices

Then, to make sure your pinions and spurs will all mesh correctly, you can use this.
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04.01.2008, 12:07 PM

Why not just use the clutchbell that came with it?... and just machine out an adapter to fit over the motor....

I have the ESC in my Mayhem.. works great on 6-8S.. it's just freakishly insane on 12S... I ran 12S with the Feigao 12XL.. it didn't like it too much... but it worked fine, and still is working.... Let me know how your buggy runs with that ESC... I love the chassis of that buggy, so much room for batteries...


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For the two speed setup, you need the following:

- Adaptor
- First Gear choices
- Second gear choices

Then, to make sure your pinions and spurs will all mesh correctly, you can use this.
Awesome....I plan to just use the factory 12/17 gearing on pinions.


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Why not just use the clutchbell that came with it?... and just machine out an adapter to fit over the motor....

I have the ESC in my Mayhem.. works great on 6-8S.. it's just freakishly insane on 12S... I ran 12S with the Feigao 12XL.. it didn't like it too much... but it worked fine, and still is working.... Let me know how your buggy runs with that ESC... I love the chassis of that buggy, so much room for batteries...
I did that with the MMT, just a PITA to machine.


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Wow, I didn't know Mike had that LST adapter.... would've saved me some time for sure..


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I think it's fairly recent (last 3-6 months) that those were available...
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Wow, I didn't know Mike had that LST adapter.... would've saved me some time for sure..
I even got Mike to bore out the adapter to handle a 6mm motor shaft, al la Kb45! No cost to me to do the mod, gotta love Mike and his A+ service! I have definately had better success getting stuff from him than other places on the web.
   
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Does Mike have a telephone # to call and order?


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