looks like novak has some new hv stuff - RC-Monster Forums

gixxer · 09:27 AM

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...RCH=NOVAK+++hv

Motors that now come with the 5mm shaft (price is listed high but tower usually does that). Also they list an hv-pro combo but no info. Hopefully its a new esc and not just the old esc with the upgraded motors. I emailed novak to get more info. Also the 7.5turn is the one that interests me.

Anyways anyone try a novak hv motor on a mamba? How does it work?

skellyo · 04.24.2008, 09:28 AM

I just sent a PM to NovakTwo. Hopefully he can come in here and help explain what exactly they are.

gixxer · 04.24.2008, 09:45 AM

I sent an email to cs@novak and also asked steve wiess on rctech. Hopefully someone will be able to let us know. I really am hoping for a new esc since they are suppose to come out with one.

lincpimp · 04.24.2008, 10:45 AM

I am currently using a novak Hv 6.5r with a mm. It is in my ext chassis crt.5. I am still trying to get the startup to be stutter free. The motor seems to run cool, and the MM have no issues with it, other than somewhat rough startup. I am steeping up to better batteries, a neuenergy 3s 5000 25c lipo, as my old maxamps pack may have cause some issues.

I did the 5mm upgrade to my motor, which puts it at about 160 bucks. Too pricey for what it is. I should have bought a neu, like a 1509 or something like that.

If novak brings out a lower kv motor and a 5s compatible esc with all of the features of the mm it will be worth it. Otherwise I will look elsewhere...

gixxer · 04.24.2008, 12:46 PM

well I got a response from Steve Weiss.

We are making some running changes on the HV Maxx ESC and motor. The motor is getting a beefier 5 mm output shaft to help it handle higher loads without fear of damage occuring to the shaft.

The ESC has updated software very similar to that of the GTB, so that your drive/brake parameters can be fine tuned to your liking.Steve Weiss

So It looks like the old hardware but with a software upgrade. Now I wonder if it has a lipo cut off.

suicideneil · 01:15 PM

The 7.5 motor sounds interesting, but if its just a slower version of the existing motors, it wont be any more powerful or allow for taller gearing really.

I remember Novaktwo saying a while back that they would introduce some slower motors, and update the hvmaxx esc first, before releasing their all new escs etc for 1/8scale.

glassdoctor · 04.24.2008, 08:03 PM

Some of us have been telling Novak to make these changes since the day they released info about the HV. (lower kv, 5mm shaft) It took WAAAAAAYYY too long but looks like they have finally seen the light... or rather, got it beat into them.

Now I wonder how long it will take for them to do larger diameter and 4-6 poles????

jhautz · 04.24.2008, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by glassdoctor

Some of us have been telling Novak to make these changes since the day they released info about the HV. (lower kv, 5mm shaft) It took WAAAAAAYYY too long but looks like they have finally seen the light... or rather, got it beat into them.

Now I wonder how long it will take for them to do larger diameter and 4-6 poles????

And a new esc that will not overheat in 7 minutes with any kind of load.

DrKnow65 · 04.24.2008, 11:16 PM

Socrap, built for those with no clue. <--- still bitter about the inflated prices when I got into RC back in the day (not that they aren't still inflated, I just have a clue). I say let them become competitive or starve. Mabey if they go under I could race my castle stuff at an actual sponsored event... Lets see novak put out something like the MMM/Neu type combo for ~$300 that would totally change my opinion :)

lutach · 04.24.2008, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DrKnow65

Socrap, built for those with no clue. <--- still bitter about the inflated prices when I got into RC back in the day (not that they aren't still inflated, I just have a clue). I say let them become competitive or starve. Mabey if they go under I could race my castle stuff at an actual sponsored event... Lets see novak put out something like the MMM/Neu type combo for ~$300 that would totally change my opinion :)

I think we (GriffinRU, BrianG, DrKnow65 and maybe myself lol) should get together and just build some of the freakiest most funkadelic monstrosorous BL controller out there. I have a few ideas of a controller and a new capacitor set up. GriffinRU has already shown us what he can do and DrKnow65 and BrianG are some intelligent guys. I know there are others, but these 3 came up real fast

. I don't understand why all of these companies don't experiment with new things, push electronics to the limits of technology.

DrKnow65 · 04.25.2008, 10:35 AM

Wow, grouped in with the likes of GriffenRU, BrianG, and Lutach. I'm flattered

Thanks Lutach.

I'm sure we could pool the ideas and come up with something kick butt. We would of course need a sugar daddy (Linkpimp

) who could fund the projects

I think there are some ways to make more power without necessarily reinventing the wheel. Mabey an "Ideas" thread? I'm sure the Novak guys would never check what was in it

lutach · 04.25.2008, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DrKnow65

Wow, grouped in with the likes of GriffenRU, BrianG, and Lutach. I'm flattered

Thanks Lutach.

I'm sure we could pool the ideas and come up with something kick butt. We would of course need a sugar daddy (Linkpimp

) who could fund the projects

I think there are some ways to make more power without necessarily reinventing the wheel. Mabey an "Ideas" thread? I'm sure the Novak guys would never check what was in it

Yes, you are in that group, but I'm only there because I posted

. I can't even come close to the things you guys have done (or will do). All I have is ideas in my head and now some have found it's way into paper and PC aka emachineshop (I can't use any of the other programs I have

). The only problem I see is the software. I know one company that sells a ATMEGA MCU already programmed and it has a car mode. One other company has a couple dev. kits that allows you to work out all the bugs on the bench before it hit the streets and this company can also programm the MCU with all the nice things we want. If only this US based companies would listen to one of you guys.

Serum · 04.25.2008, 10:48 AM

From the price difference on the tower site, i assume that the only difference between the normal and the pro version is the 5mm shaft.

TexasSP · 04.25.2008, 10:50 AM

The problem with novak is that they seem not to be able to see past their own arrogance to actually make their products better. The higher kv motors, the sensored design, the lack of programmability of the HV ESC. Not to mention they will never admit a flaw in their products. Sometimes you have to get over it being your way and you were here longer and admit when there are better ways. If CC had tried to start up and put out the same products as novak, they would be out of business. I think people buy their stuff now just because it's novak.

Serum · 04.25.2008, 10:57 AM

I think you are off by MILES texassp; a few novak crew members are member here, and are ANYTHING BUT arrogant; in fact, they are willing to listen, and also willing to change; it's not that a sensored setup is perse less powerfull than a sensorless. that's rubbish. it's a mild setup for the mild setup customers. I have got a novak 6.5 here, and on 4S it is QUICK in my e-maxx and it stays ice-cold. it has plenty of speed and power to get allong in a race, i am possitive about that. (not in my hands, i drive like poop)

they also changed their shafts into 5mm shafts, and also got a lower KV motor standing by.

They have got a top-notch service, and don't throw people off by simple saying the reason why it broke down was because of a user error.