MMM vs Xcelorin 1/8

Guys, although the xcelorin 1/8 hasn't been out for long has anyone ever had the chance to compare the two side-by-side? Feature wise I've been examining both. The xcelorin looks very promising on paper

I've pasted some technical specs taken from each manufacturer's site:

MMM

Cells: 6s LiPo
Resistance: 0.0003 ohms per phase
Brake: Proportional with adjustable curve
Reversible: Yes - with lockout
Cooling fan
Programmable via PC
Dimensions: 2.2" x 1.9" x 1.4"
Weight w/Wires: ESC: 121g
Connector Type: 6.5mm bullet

1/8 Xcelorin

160A continuous current with 800A peak
Prewired Losi EC5 power connector
Accommodates a 3s-5s-cell LiPo
Cooling fan
Optimized for Spektrum or legacy radio systems
Internal and programmable BEC
Forward/Brake with Reverse or Forward/Brake settings
Forward and reverse throttle limiting available
Four LEDs to indicate functions
Three preset drive profiles: 3S, 4S and 5S
Programmable via PC and Programming Card
Includes three pre-programmed profiles for convenience
Adjust brake and throttle curve settings with the simple-to-use graphical interface software

Just a small footnote: Didn't see it on Castle's site but on Amainhobbies they rate the MMM at 'Continuous: 120 Amps'. Wonder if this is accurate?

[MetalMan]

The one thing the Xcelorin has over the MMM is its programming card.

As for comparing current ratings between the MMM and 1/8 Xcelorin, you can't really compare the numbers. I have no doubt that CC and Losi rate the ESCs differently, so IMO you'd have to do a real side-by-side comparison and measure temperatures to determine which ESC can handle more current.

[TexasSP]

Problem I have is that I haven't seen anyone who has a working Xcelorin yet, then only reports on here are of failures. Not that I am saying they all fail, it's just there haven't been any good reports.

[killajb]

Let's assume both esc's perform as intended. Looking at the spec sheet on both, I'd still go for a MMM because of 6s capability. Higher voltage = lower current draw for the same power output and less energy wasted in heat loss.

I believe the xcelorin may have an advantage over the MMM in terms of higher Amp ratings - provided that the numbers on the MMM are correct.

I agree to some extent with MetalMan a comparison out on the field and some graphs to show at the end of the day would be more accurate.

There are a couple of recent positive reports on rctech about the Losi esc. Not sure if they are biased toward's losi but here is a link to one of them (post #305).

http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...-e-4wd-11.html

"I believe the xcelorin may have an advantage over the MMM in terms of higher Amp ratings - provided that the numbers on the MMM are correct."

I thought the Mamba was rated for 200 amps continuous?

[TexasSP]

Ratings are arbitrary with controllers. The Novak HV is supposed to be like 400 amp continuous or thereabouts, yeah right!

[BL_RV0]

The xcelorin may be able to handle 6s. It's probably just rated lower because they had a <100% success rate running 6s.

[e-mike]

Originally Posted by BL_RV0

because they had a <100% success rate running 6s.

if it do that i buy 4 of these esc

[BL_RV0]

God, how much money do you have to spend on RC?

Originally Posted by e-mike

if it do that i buy 4 of these esc

Calm down Mike, you have buy 6 MMM and 5 of it is at Castle for repair, so let the Losi where it is, and wait for your MMM.
Or return with nitro, i think that for you, nitro would be wayyyyyyyyyyy more reliable

[brushlessboy16]

[QUOTE=david lamontagn;224120]
Or return with nitro, i think that for you, nitro would be wayyyyyyyyyyy more reliable[/

Usyou

it all depends on how you set it up..

don't matter about set it up, but Mike have fried 5 MMM.
So fu.. the set it up, but for me, when i fried something once, i don't try 4 more time

[DRIFT_BUGGY]

Surprised no-one of here has got the Losi ESC yet. Still have only heard of 2 failing

[Kajman]

will they handle 6s a123?