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Anyone use the SB989 charger and LBA10 balancer together?
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Anyone use the SB989 charger and LBA10 balancer together? - 10.29.2008, 08:08 PM

I haven't figured out how to use the LBA10 while charging with the SB989. I keep getting a BL ERR on the charger. Anyone out there had any success with balancing and charging at the same time with this setup?
   
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10.29.2008, 08:13 PM

do you have the status light on the balancer blinking?

it wont start if it is not blinking
   
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10.29.2008, 08:21 PM

I use that combo. After you connect your balancer to your charger, you have to plug in your balance tap from your battery into your balancer 1st, then the Deans connector. Next, press the mode/reset button. The cell type (status) light will start blinking in 1 second intervals. When this happens you are set to charge. Make sure your settings are correct on your charger because if it is set for the wrong number of cells it will give that code.
   
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10.29.2008, 08:55 PM

yea what jerry said, plug in the balancer tap, then main lipo leads, press the button then start the charger.
   
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10.29.2008, 09:04 PM

I use the same combo (989 and LBA10) and I had the same problem as what you had when I first got it. Do as Jerry said, and it will work.


   
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10.29.2008, 09:29 PM

Excellent! That did the trick. Really appreciaite the help guys. Thanks!
   
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11.15.2008, 10:06 PM

HELP!!!!!!
I'm trying to set up my B'In Laws 989 and LBA10, with his Zippy 4S packs. I measured the voltage at 15.17 prior to putting them on the charger. I followed the instructions here, but we cant seem to get the balancer off of A123 mode.
It lights up, and initially it only shows three cells (if the lights at the beginning are indicating this?). Then it starts discharging one of the cells. I also get the ERR B L when pressing start.
So my first challenge is to get it off of A123 mode. Pressing the mode button only results in momentary changes from A123, and it goes back to it. Any ideas?

ON EDIT: I think I got it figured out - sometimes electronics respond well to just pushing buttons and plugging things in randomly.....LOL!


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11.16.2008, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JThiessen View Post
ON EDIT: I think I got it figured out - sometimes electronics respond well to just pushing buttons and plugging things in randomly.....LOL!
Nice work Jeff. Not everything will respond well to having it's buttons pushed.

Don't know if anyone will find this useful. I wrote up some quick instructions for a friend that I set up his SB989 and LBA10 for use with the (2) 2s2p 8000mAh lipos he has. Much easier then trying to explain it. I noted that the prefered method is to use the LBA10 inline while charging. Not knowing if that's the way he will use it. I put instructions for using them seperatly also. It might help someone else push the right button someday.
This is what was given to him....

LIPO FYI


LIPOs are made up of individual cells. Each cell has a nominal voltage of 3.7 and a mAh capacity rating which varies. Your cells capacity is 4000mah per cell. The batteries you have are 7.4v 8000mAh battery packs. Also called 2s2p 8000’s LIPO.

The 2s2p configuration is how the pack is made up.
2s = 2 (3.7v, 4000mAh) cells in a series configuration
+
2p = 2 (3.7v, 4000mAh) cells in a parallel configuration

When cells are connected in series the voltage is added together.
(2s) 3.7v + 3.7v = 7.4v
When cells are connected in parallel the mAh is added together.
(2p) 4000 + 4000 = 8000mah

=
2s2p = 7.4v 8000mAh Lipo


SB989 Charger:


I have set up two profiles (A & B) on the SB989 charger to charge your LIPO batteries.

Profile A is for charging one of your batteries. It should have on the screen when you verify the correct profile is selected.
LIPO
2 Cells
80000mah

Profile B will be the same except the cell count will be
LIPO
4 Cells
80000mah

Again very important to insure the number of cells is correct, LIPO is on the screen, and the mode is charge.

Profile A
2s2p 8000mAh lipo charge (one battery) 2 cells

Profile B
4s2p 8000mAh lipo charge (two batteries) 4 cells

Use the arrow keys left or right to select the profile input sections. It will flash the profile. Once the profile flashes use the + or – button to change between the A and B profile.

To charge move the selector to the mode section. Once again the selected option will be flashing. Insure that is indicates charge not discharge or auto-cycle. You should not have to change this. If it doesn’t have charge selected. Use the + or – to select the charge mode.



SB989 LIPO CHARGING and the LBA10 Balancer:

Checking the voltage of the batteries w/o LBA10 connected:
Move the left arrow key on the SB989 until volt is blinking.
Connect the dean’s plug from the SB989 to the Lipo
You will get the reading. A full 2s lipo pack will be around 8.40 volts.

Checking voltage with the LBA10 connected:
Move the left arrow key on the SB989 until volt is blinking.
Connect the bullet connectors to the LBA10
Plug the 2s tap adapter into the LBA10
Connect the 2s adapter to the LIPO in 12 sec
Connect the Deans plug from the LBA10 to the Lipo deans
Press the mode button on the LBA10 once
You will get the reading. A full 2s lipo pack will be around 8.40 volts.


Charging w/o the LBA10 balancer connected*
*You should balance the batteries before and after a charge if not using the LBA10 during the charge.

Charging one battery at a time
Select Profile A on the SB989.
Plug the lipo into the SB989 charger
Insure the correct profile is selected and press start.

Charging two batteries at a time (series)
Only if the two pack are within .15 volt of each other
Connect the two batteries together using the series adapter.
Select Profile B on the SB989.
Plug the series adapter’s dean plug into the SB989 charger dean plug
Insure the correct profile is selected and press start.

Balancing the batteries in stand alone mode with the LBA10*
Connect the LBA10 2s connector to the LBA10 and then into the LIPO taps connector. Within 12 sec connect the LBA10‘s dean connector to the Lipo’s dean connector. The LBA10 will go to work. It is finished when all the lights are off. You should not have to push mode button on the LBA10 to do this.

*You should balance the batteries before and after a charge if not using the LBA10 during the charge.

Charging with the LBA10 balancer connected (preferred method)
Connect the chargers output leads to the LBA10 input leads. Insure the polarity is correct when connecting the bullet connectors together.

Charging one battery:
Select profile A on the SB989
Connect the 2s balance connector from the LBA10 to the LIPO. Within 12 sec connect the dean’s plug from the LBA10 to the battery.
Press the mode button on the LBA10 once
If the SB989 gives an error press the mode button on the LBA10 again. Doing this lets the charger see the lipo battery that is connected.
Insure the correct profile on the SB989 is selected and press start.

Charging two batteries in series:*
Only if the two pack are within .15 volt of each other
Select profile B on the SB989
Connect the 4s series adapter to the LBA10 and the two batteries.
Connect the dean’s connector’s adapter to the LBA10 and the two batteries
Press the mode button once on the LBA10
Insure the correct profile is selected on the LBA10 and press start.

*A series adapter for the LBA10 and lipo packs balancing taps is needed to charge two lipo in series with the LBA10.
   
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11.16.2008, 02:05 PM

Nice write up!
After I successfully got the 989 working, I left it charging the one pack, and he went home. Not knowing how the 989 works, I began wondering how I would know that it was finished. However, that question became moot, when it hit the 60 minute timer! So I'll have to change the time limit on it.

Now, I'm just thinking out loud here. I do have another LBA10, and the network cable (which I think he wants to buy from me). His Batteries are 4S 4150 zippy R's. To charge both of those at the same time, we will have to use the two LBA10's and network cable as opposed to what you did, due to the 6S limit of the LBA10, correct? What I'm not so certain about, is what settings change on the charger? I think its going to be a series connection, therefore the charger needs to be set at 8S, 4150? Is 8S within the limits of the 989? Or does the charger still see this as a 4S setup, with the LBA10's doing the "thinking?


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11.16.2008, 07:59 PM

Thanks. I've never used the lba in a network but your thinking sounds correct. The SB989 has a lipo limit of 8 cells. It would be setup like you said. Use a series connector and set up the sb989 for lipo 8cell 4150mah at 4amps.

Maybe someone who as used the LBA10 in network connection can chime in. It all looks good on paper.
   
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