RC-Monster Forums  

Go Back   RC-Monster Forums > Support Forums > General Electric

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Best Soldering Practices
Old
  (#1)
Mentat
Brushless Mentat
 
Mentat's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 353
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Outside Louisville KY
Best Soldering Practices - 08.06.2009, 01:35 AM

What are some Best Soldering Practices? It seems that i have been having issues with my 6.5mm bullets coming off my batteries, im wondering if its something to do with how i am soldering it to begin with? I can tell you right now that i do not solder or "tin" the wire at all. i usally heat up the "CUP" side of the bullet and melt the solder into it, then stick the wire in and let it cool. Would using some kind of Flux help? HELP!!!


FS: 8ight-t Race Roller TONS of UPGRADES

8ight 1.0 & 2.0 | 8ight-T 1.0 & 2.0 | E-Revo BL Edition | T-Maxx | Slash | Raze-ST | XXX-NT Drake | 3PKS | DX3S Telemetry
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#2)
BL_RV0
RC-Monster Dual Brushless
 
BL_RV0's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 5,061
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Thousand Oaks CA
08.06.2009, 01:43 AM

You always should tin the wires.


Get me back into RC!
  Send a message via Yahoo to BL_RV0 Send a message via AIM to BL_RV0 Send a message via MSN to BL_RV0  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#3)
Mentat
Brushless Mentat
 
Mentat's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 353
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Outside Louisville KY
08.06.2009, 01:45 AM

whats the best way to do this? I cant seem to get the wire blanketed with solder, only globs here and there, LOL!


FS: 8ight-t Race Roller TONS of UPGRADES

8ight 1.0 & 2.0 | 8ight-T 1.0 & 2.0 | E-Revo BL Edition | T-Maxx | Slash | Raze-ST | XXX-NT Drake | 3PKS | DX3S Telemetry
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#4)
BL_RV0
RC-Monster Dual Brushless
 
BL_RV0's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 5,061
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Thousand Oaks CA
08.06.2009, 01:46 AM

Put some solder on your iron, press the wire onto a hard surface and press the iron into it.


Get me back into RC!
  Send a message via Yahoo to BL_RV0 Send a message via AIM to BL_RV0 Send a message via MSN to BL_RV0  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#5)
Andrew32
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
08.06.2009, 01:50 AM

sounds like you dont have enough heat.

I clean everytihng with rubbing alcohol before starting to solder anything!
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#6)
Mentat
Brushless Mentat
 
Mentat's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 353
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Outside Louisville KY
08.06.2009, 01:58 AM

i have a 100w iron and a 30w iron. Ill try the cleaning in rubbing alcohol. what about Flux?


FS: 8ight-t Race Roller TONS of UPGRADES

8ight 1.0 & 2.0 | 8ight-T 1.0 & 2.0 | E-Revo BL Edition | T-Maxx | Slash | Raze-ST | XXX-NT Drake | 3PKS | DX3S Telemetry
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#7)
Andrew32
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
08.06.2009, 02:00 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mentat View Post
i have a 100w iron and a 30w iron. Ill try the cleaning in rubbing alcohol. what about Flux?
eh...i never use it.......
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#8)
E-Revonut
RC-Monster RC8T
 
E-Revonut's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 2,554
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Syracuse, New York (Camillus)
08.06.2009, 02:04 AM

Rosin core solder works fine, no flux needed its already there. Heat up the wire with the iron till the solder will melt by touching it to the wire. Then get the bullet hotter than hell! I use a small butane lighter to help get the bullets up to temp then fill them with solder, heat the wire/solder up again a little and then stick it in. Another important step is to keep it all still while the solder cools and hardens. 6.5mm bullets are just a pita imo, however doing it like this I have never had a bad connection or had one come apart.


RC-Monster RC8T 1515 2.5D/MMM/5s RC-M 4500mah
SC10 MMPro 13.5T 2s NeuEnery 5000mah
RC18T Mamba 25/5400kv 2s lipo + 6s NiMh
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#9)
J57ltr
RC-Monster Aluminum
 
Offline
Posts: 610
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Tomball/ Houston Tx.
08.06.2009, 02:11 AM

Number 1 Tin the wires. Use flux That's probably why you are having so many problems,the flux will melt and wick throughout the wire and allow the solder to flow evenly. Flux is what floats the contaminats away from the metal and keeps O2 from getting to the work. That's why it's used in all forms (be it sheilding gas or flux) of welding (except Spot). As far as using rubbing alcohol, maybe for cleaning off the flux after you are finished. Also use a quality solder like Multicore or Kester, And make sure you are not using lead free unless you know what you are doing it solders quite a bit different. Use a damp sponge to clean your tip.

Jeff


The Warnings & Cautions discussed in this manual cant cover all possible conditions/situations. It must be understood that common sense and caution are factors which cant be built into this product.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#10)
Mentat
Brushless Mentat
 
Mentat's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 353
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Outside Louisville KY
08.06.2009, 02:28 AM

Thanks for the info. I was kinda wondering about the whole flux thing. Any Flux you would recommend? and Ill look into getting that solder you mentioned as well. Thanks!


FS: 8ight-t Race Roller TONS of UPGRADES

8ight 1.0 & 2.0 | 8ight-T 1.0 & 2.0 | E-Revo BL Edition | T-Maxx | Slash | Raze-ST | XXX-NT Drake | 3PKS | DX3S Telemetry
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#11)
Snipin_Willy
RC-Monster Carbon Fiber
 
Snipin_Willy's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 406
Join Date: Aug 2008
08.06.2009, 07:49 AM

I don't generally use flux. Getting the solder to "flow" requires more heat that it makes to melt it. If I had a video cam I'd take a video but I'm sure there are already plenty out there.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#12)
What's_nitro?
Soldermaster Extraordinaire
 
What's_nitro?'s Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 4,529
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Plymouth, MA, USA
08.06.2009, 11:03 AM

Use your 100W iron. Always tin the wires first- get about 1/4" of the wire full of solder. For bullets, I heat them up and fill them about 1/2 way with solder then stick the tinned wire into the pool of solder. Keep the iron on it for a few seconds to melt the tinned wire and make a good connection. Pretty much the same thing you do, but the tinned wire makes the difference between a good connection and what's called a "cold joint" that falls apart. The 60/40 rosin core solder works fine. IMO using separate flux is unnecessary. If you don't have one already get one of those "helping hands" things with the alligator clips to hold parts while you solder them. You can actually hold the wire in one clip, the bullet in another, and move the arms so that the wire is already inside the cup of the bullet. Then just heat it up (a lot) and fill it with solder.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#13)
brushlessboy16
Im not dark, Im over ripened! xD
 
brushlessboy16's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 5,607
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Westampton NJ
08.06.2009, 11:16 AM

keep heat on the wire until the globs of solder flow smoothly into the strands of the wire, then tin the bullet connector. Keep heat on the cup and insert the tinned wire- watch as the solder from the wire melts and blends with the solder in the cup. then let cool


Benjamin White
R/c Monster Team Driver
Jq the car, LST, Sportweks turmoil pro
Unconventional Techniques, Superior Results
  Send a message via Yahoo to brushlessboy16 Send a message via AIM to brushlessboy16 Send a message via MSN to brushlessboy16  
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump







Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
vBulletin Skin developed by: vBStyles.com