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Which Lehner -
01.30.2007, 04:54 PM
I'm working on a buggy conversion and have already bought a Feigao 7XL. The thing is that I just came into some disposable money and would like to get into a better motor. Since I think that 4S lipo should be enough for a buggy on a track, I'll likely be running a Mamba Max controller, I figure that a two pole motor would be the best way to go. I'd like to get into a Lehner.
I'm figuring about a 2200kv motor, so which would better serve my purpose, a 1930 9, or a 1940 7?
Considerations are heat and runtime.
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RC-Monster Dual Brushless
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01.30.2007, 05:11 PM
the 1940/7t will be a good motor for your buggy.
The problem with nitro's these days are that they arent brushless... LOL
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01.30.2007, 05:35 PM
I'd second that. Hard to argue against the 1940.
Otherwise consider the Neu. Most are having good luck with it. A few have some cogging issues. I'll post my experiences with the NUE/MM as soon as I can get the truck reassembled!
Supermaxx-Racer-X, VBS, FLM chassis & Transcase, HSR Motorsports Slipper, Cage, MMM ESC, NEU1515. REVO 3.3, BL X1-CRT, CRT, BL-CRT.5, Procharged '92 Mustang visit www.chitownrc.com and www.rcbros.com
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01.30.2007, 06:35 PM
Another choice would a be a 1950 6T.. would have more torque.. but a 1940 is plenty.
The problem with nitro's these days are that they arent brushless... LOL
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01.30.2007, 06:38 PM
For a truck that light I don't think a 1950 makes sense. The 1940 would be ideal. A 1930 would work too.
Lower Kv, higher amp draw, heavier motor.
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01.31.2007, 02:19 AM
I have a 1940/7 and it is PLENTY of motor for a buggy. Its plenty of motor for a Monster Truck or a truggy too. So far its my favorite motor. Its powerful, runs cool and it will run on just about any brushless controller available.
Ive never tryed a 1930, but Mike told me that he at one time ran an emaxx on a 1930 and it was really quick. The smaller motors spool up faster so they feel really snappy.
I can't decide if its more fun
to make it...
or break it...
Silent...But Deadly
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01.31.2007, 11:40 AM
Is there any reason why a 1930 wouldn't be able to do the job? Will it run hot?
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01.31.2007, 11:41 AM
From all I've heard the 1930 should do a nice job. It works well in lighter vehicals!
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01.31.2007, 12:17 PM
CC says that soon they will have the software update that will cure the cogging issues wiht the Neu, so if you are interested in them you may want to wait a bit and see if this pans out. If they fix it 100% then I would go with a Neu.
Nothing wrong with a Lehner though :)
Or a Pletty :)
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01.31.2007, 12:43 PM
REALLY? How soon can we expect it???
That would be awesome!!!!!!!!! :027: :027: :027:
The NEU 1515 or 1512 would be a perfect combo!
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01.31.2007, 01:01 PM
no one knows... they wont tell us either..
and what kind of buggy did u convert?
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01.31.2007, 10:06 PM
I converted a Sportwerks Turmoil. I wanted to do an XB8 or Eight, but my LHS stocks all of the parts for the Turmoil, and I'm not a great driver by any means. My Turmoil does well enough for me.
OK, I've also been considering the Neu. I've had a bit of experience with the Mamba Max systems, but the whole 1/8 (large) scale thing has been confusing to me. As I said, I want to use the MM controller because it is super user friendly and it's really inexpensive. I just don't want to push it too hard and I think I'll already be on the edge with the 7XL that I ordered. I'd imagine that a Lehner 1940/7 is going to put a similar strain on the ESC, current wise. That's why I'm hoping for some confirmation about the 1930 in a buggy in a race application. If it is similar to the L can Feigaos in terms of specs, then it will draw far less current than the larger can motors with similar kv ratings. To tell the truth, I'm kind of already regretting my ordering the 7XL, even though I haven't even received it yet. I'm starting to think that the 7XL is going to be over kill in an 8 lb. buggy on 4S lipo.
I'd really like to use a 1930 class motor as it will (as far as I understand) have about a 30A lower max amp draw than the 1940 class motors. For that matter, I'd like to be able to go with a 1512 rather than a 1515, for the same reasons.
I was really hoping to hear from some guys that are actually running one of these motors in a race environment to get some feedback. I've gotten so much mixed information from people running stuff in buggies and trucks that I'm having a hard time making heads or tails of the info.
I was also leaning more toward the Lehner because it is a two pole motor. I understand that the four pole motors put alot more strain on the ESC, which I'm trying to avoid.
Can anyone say in black and white whether the 1930 (or L, or 1512) motor is just right for a buggy or will it be on the limits of the motor to run it in that application?
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01.31.2007, 10:50 PM
I vote 1950...if you are dropping the cash might as well go for the big one :017:
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01.31.2007, 11:36 PM
i agree with bp
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01.31.2007, 11:38 PM
Can't have too many motors IMHO...I have over a dozen if you count my airplane motors :005:
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