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ElEcTrIc MaYhEm! - 04.25.2007, 12:32 AM

Got my first try with 4s (first 4s) on my new buggy (and first 1/8th ever). Sportwerks Mayhem Pro, Mamba max, 7xl, Maxamps 4s 5000HV. Holy cr*p, this thing flies! It is very silent too, alot queiter than my MT2 18SS conversion. At part throttle, you can hear the driveshafts clicking, but no gears or motor noise. At full throttle, it just makes a powerful whine! Whoo-hoo, this should really smoke some nitro but. The shear acceleration of this heavy (still less than 8lbs) buggy is amazing!







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04.25.2007, 12:47 AM

Thats really clean - nice job.


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04.25.2007, 12:59 AM

That's a nice conversion. The Turmoil was my first conversion.

What spur gear did you use? Did you have to modify it to fit the diff cup? If so, what did you do?

Here's how mine came out...

   
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04.25.2007, 01:13 AM

looks like a clean conversion. I like it. what kind of bec unit is that?


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04.25.2007, 01:47 AM

AAngel: I chucked the diff cup in a drill and ran it on sandpaper to fit into a kyosho 46 t spur, didn't need much removed.

gixxer: It is a Dimension Engineering Park BEC 6v
   
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04.25.2007, 01:53 AM

It looks great!! I am also actually converting my 1st 1/8 scale car right now which is also buggy. What kind fo speeds are you getting do you think? I am trying to decide between the 8xl and 7xl, yet I still want a lot of run time (8000mah), but still be very fast.


   
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04.25.2007, 02:55 AM

bdebde, didn't you have trouble with the bearing standoff on the spur being too high?

RC, electric buggies are capable of some pretty high speeds. In excess of 50 mph, but just like anything else, speed comes at a price. More broken parts and more heat. I usually run my buggy on a track and when running the 7XL gearing 14/46, I haven't seen a nitro buggy yet that is faster. At 12/46 it's still very fast and the acceleration is unbelievable. I've been running an 8XL lately though. It doesn't get as hot as the 7XL did and I'm getting a bit more runtime. I usually run it geared at 14/46.

There really isn't much difference between the 7XL and 8XL. With the 8XL, you just gear up a bit more, but have the ability to gear down too.
   
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04.25.2007, 11:02 AM

***RC***: Have not run it too much for top speed, gotta be about 45 i think.

AAngel: not sure what you mean about the bearing standoff? I did have a problem witth the screw heads not quite being flush with the spur. Ended up putting a diff shim on the outside of the rear bearing to get the screw heads away from the diff mount.
I am running 14/46 gearing right now, may go down to 12. Still gotta see what run times are like. I may get an 8XL as well just to give it try. Never hurts to have a extra motor, or different ones for different tracks
   
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AAngel: Since you have had both a Mayhem and Turmoil, can you tell me what is interchangeble between the two? Looks like everything for the Turmoil will fit the Mayhem, except the chassis and center cvd's, is that correct?
   
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04.25.2007, 04:51 PM

I think that's all that's different. Not much difference at all actually. I'd just change the body mounts on yours so that you can use the better body and maybe swap the f/r cvds. The Turmoil cvd are the 45* cvd and bind less.

To tell you the truth, I liked my Mayhem better. I tuned my Turmoil's suspension the same way I did the Mayhem and it was pushing. I've been working on it ever since.

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04.25.2007, 10:30 PM

I almost got the turmoil, but wasn't sure how much farther forward the center diff was, and didn't want to have the motor too far forward. Then I ran across a deal on the mayhem that I couldn't pass up. I picked up the body mount today, the half painted turmoil bodies should be in next week. I do plan on getting the turmoil cvd's too.

And here is a quick vid

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06.01.2007, 06:18 PM

I don't think that I mentioned it before, but it looks like your running a Feigao/Nemesis motor. There are optional aluminum center diff bulks. If you use these to fasten your mount to, it will be more rigid and help to channel the heat from the motor mount, through the diff bulks to the chassis and will get you more runtime before the motor over heats.
   
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06.01.2007, 09:07 PM

qbayle:

Thanks for the compliment.

I made the motor mount, it is just a piece of aluminum screwed to the center diff mount. I don't have any plans for it and don't plan on making any to sell. In fact I may get one from RC-Monster Mike as his work is real nice, and he does custom stuff as well.

The battery tray is a kyosho part, RC-Monster sells them (they may not be in the store, email Mike if you want one).

Motor; the XL feigaos are popular, but I am starting to think they run a bit too hot for my liking. Alot of guys on here are going with the Neu motors,as they are much more efficient. 1700 to 2000 kv seem to be the most popular

Pinions I have been getting here at RC-Monster. Gear for the speed you want (use BrianG's calculator), most are gearing for 35 to 40 mph for racing.

Spur gear is also a Kyosho part available here at the RC-Monster store, it is plastic and allows the use of non hardened (cheaper) pinions. Some have used the stock spur gears, but a hardened pinion would be required for that.

BEC is a Dimension Engineering ParkBEC. It was smallest lightest one I could find, but if running high torque digital servo, I don't know if it will be enough. I have no prob with my old Hitec605MG in there.

The biggest thing you have to do is get rid of the nitrocrap. The servo plate will need to be cut so you just have the steering servo mount and no throttle servo. And of course bolting on you motor mount and battery tray.

And yes, screw nitro, in fact I have never run nitro in 20 years in rc.


AAngel:

thanks for the tip, I had considered that as well, just trying to find one on ebay cheap so I don't haved to pay full price (those things are spendy).
   
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06.01.2007, 09:22 PM

bdebde, nice ride.

I never knew what your name meant until now, I watched the video with the 'That's all folks'.... classis. :005:


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I got the name the first time I saw it. I love it.
   
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