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08.28.2008, 05:28 PM
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I know I'll have to "inject" external 6v power into the MMM throttle power line so the internal circuits can have their power.
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BrianG, Patrick tell me that the internal BEC of the MMM have a 3.3 volts regulator to power the microprocessor of the MMM, so if you powered it with the 6 volts of your Koolflight UBEC, you risk to destroy your MMM
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08.28.2008, 05:31 PM
Thanks Patrick!
David: No, I'll be injecting the 6v into the throttle lead back into the MMM, which is normally at ~6v anyway. The additional 3.3v regulator must be further back in the circuit.
Basically, I'll be using an external UBEC without pulling the red wire...
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08.28.2008, 07:43 PM
Success!
Removed the components Patrick suggested and it works like a champ.
The MMM switch is useless now, switching it off did nothing. So I bridged the contacts at the PCB (did this after the pic above).
And now, I can use the Castle Link without any mods, nor do I need batteries hooked up to the ESC. I don't know if this mod makes anything run longer or better, but I feel better with my V1.
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I don't understand, but I don't think I like it.
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08.28.2008, 08:01 PM
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Success!
Removed the components Patrick suggested and it works like a champ.
The MMM switch is useless now, switching it off did nothing. So I bridged the contacts at the PCB (did this after the pic above).
And now, I can use the Castle Link without any mods, nor do I need batteries hooked up to the ESC. I don't know if this mod makes anything run longer or better, but I feel better with my V1. 
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So now basically it's an opto ESC?
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08.29.2008, 01:36 PM
Sorry to be anal but any chance of rotating the pic 180 so that it lines up with the orginal series...
Ahh that feels better
Last edited by Arct1k; 08.29.2008 at 03:29 PM.
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09.02.2008, 10:13 AM
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Success!
Removed the components Patrick suggested and it works like a champ.
The MMM switch is useless now, switching it off did nothing. So I bridged the contacts at the PCB (did this after the pic above).
And now, I can use the Castle Link without any mods, nor do I need batteries hooked up to the ESC. I don't know if this mod makes anything run longer or better, but I feel better with my V1. 
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BrianG, on this pics, i can see the removed parts, the bridge on the switch wires, but were is the brown wire goes on the Rx  ????
And after the mod, i know you run an external BEC but did you remove the red wire in the Rx plug?????
Do you have to route the external BEC output wire to power the ESC????
Please i need clear expanation, and tell me if i can do this on the V2.
I'am french and sometimes i've somes difficulties with english explanations.
Thank you
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09.02.2008, 10:23 AM
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BrianG, on this pics, i can see the removed parts, the bridge on the switch wires, but were is the brown wire goes on the Rx  ????
And after the mod, i know you run an external BEC but did you remove the red wire in the Rx plug?????
Do you have to route the external BEC output wire to power the ESC????
Please i need clear expanation, and tell me if i can do this on the V2.
I'am french and sometimes i've somes difficulties with english explanations.
Thank you
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I removed the ground wire on the throttle because the input power ground is the same point as the throttle ground, so that means fewer wires. If you look at the wiring diagram, you can see I'm picking up full battery power directly from the ESC power solder points.
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08.28.2008, 08:19 PM
Whoah nice one Brian.....I hope I am good with soldering iron as you are....
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Check out my huge box!
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08.28.2008, 08:23 PM
I see the fan plug went south too
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08.28.2008, 08:27 PM
Brian just created the first MMM lite...
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08.28.2008, 08:35 PM
$10 says it still conks out...
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08.28.2008, 08:49 PM
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So now basically it's an opto ESC?
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Basically yes. Although, in most Opto ESCs, you still need the main battery connection as well.... at least that's how it is in the CC HV ESCs.
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Whoah nice one Brian.....I hope I am good with soldering iron as you are....
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You'd laugh if you saw the iron I worked with. Since I knew those parts were destined for the trash, I heated one side of the IC while gently prying with a tiny screwdriver. The IC basically fell off when I heated the other side. I just cut the inductor out and then removed the leftover connections.
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I see the fan plug went south too 
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Of course! I wasn't using it anyway and it was added weight for nothing.
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Brian just created the first MMM lite...
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$10 says it still conks out...

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Let's see how long it lasts. I got this ESC really cheap, so if it blows, no biggie. It was more or less my experiment ESC. I've never blown an ESC yet, and I hope not to change that, so hopefully things will be good. The only things that can go wrong now is if the external UBEC fails (sending full B voltage to the internals - ouch!), or if the ESC simply decides to do a Schulze on me.
And neil, I have one thing to say to you:
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08.28.2008, 09:47 PM
Impressive work Brian!
1. MBX-6 T8 1900KV, RX8 ON 4S
2. MBX-5T 1520, MMM ON 5S
3. MBX-5 ONROAD CONVERSION 1515, MMM ON 5S
4. MRX-3 ON ROAD CONVERSION 1512, MMM ON 6S
5. TEN T 2650 T8, MMP ON 3S
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08.29.2008, 11:10 AM
Can I nominate this to be a sticky ? BrianG is a legend. I have just done this mod to my dead V1 & magically, the esc has been resurrected.

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Regards,
Joe Ling
Hyper 9e Medusa 4S, Savage 5S MMM 8XL, Jammin' 4S Neu MMM, X2 Ninja JX, X2 MMM 5S Neu, E REVO Medusa 6S
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08.29.2008, 11:38 AM
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Can I nominate this to be a sticky ? BrianG is a legend. I have just done this mod to my dead V1 & magically, the esc has been resurrected.
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Don't forget to remove the switch wires and bridge the solder pads where the switch goes. I did a little more testing with the switch in place and found that when it was off and ran it for a couple of minutes, I'd have odd performance. Something like cogging, but not. With the switch closed, everything runs perfectly. So, you might as well remove it and bridge the pads. Cleans up the wiring too.
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