ALZA racing Flux Baja 5b

[Arct1k]

I agree looks nice...

- The baja kit though looks a bit too (ok very) similar to mikes.

[thzero]

Only so many ways to skin a cat. :)

Originally Posted by Arct1k

The baja kit though looks a bit too (ok very) similar to mikes.

[toplakd]

Originally Posted by Arct1k

I agree looks nice...

- The baja kit though looks a bit too (ok very) similar to mikes.

Hi.

I agree, that mentioned kit look similar. I saw an original on Mikes site once or twice but newer got it in hands, so it is just similar and nothing else.

I designed mine with help of my friend and his baja. There was a lot of measuring and test cuts involved, so no reverse ingeneering with Mikes great product, because just to buy something and then clone is not the way to go. (slipperential 1:1 clone)

I enjoy drawing parts, and then making test cuts to see if everything fits.



Now back to topic.

Thank you, Dejan

[Knez]

I also doubt that he would be a copy-cat

Alza Baja kit is a lot better than tcs kit, more settings and options also a lot better weight distribution and easy to maintain as servo plate is not as big as HPI box so makes things easier, at least aproach to the steering kit.

Originally Posted by thzero

Looks nice. Especially considering that it will handle the longer motors, unlike say the TCS TVPs. Servo plate is a nice touch. Got room for 160mm batteries?

Well there is like 158mm or maybe 159mm room.
i personally use HK 5000mAh 3S 40C/50C lipos so ther eis a space for a "foam" so lipos get protected a bit...

Originally Posted by Arct1k

Just be aware that advertising of competitors products is not allowed on this site.

Do u mean my signature or the link that i provided or that Desertboy XL signature in the picture or all this ?



And here a pic, that slipped...

HPI A720 shocks with pink + yellow springs vs "down" HPI stock
For heavy loaded trucks..


Knez

[_dV]

Would probably be better off with a red spring and the plastic tube that comes with the stock shocks then that double spring? Would avoid that collar that rubs on the body of the shock at least.

I'm a bit dubious of those dog bones. The point where the shaft joins the ball is still the same thickness but the thick shaft won't provide much torsional flex and that could put even more stress on that join area.

[Knez]

_dV - well i didnt use those pink+yellow sping set up as my Flux Baja 5b will be between 6kg -7kg heavy, so i will not use them.
But maybe good for heavy loaded trucks..

Well the thing is...DB are made to transfer the power. Well i didnt see no cups that can take bigger "DB ball ends" so there would be no point for manufaturer to make those bigger or thicker...but thicker DB in a longer truck like 5b is always welcomed in my .

I am thinking to put 1520 or 1717 in this thing... any advice?

Knez

[thzero]

Originally Posted by Knez

well i didnt use those pink+yellow sping set up as my Flux Baja 5b will be between 6kg -7kg heavy, so i will not use them.
But maybe good for heavy loaded trucks.

I really don't think the setup you are using will work. The point of the dual springs is to have a dual-rate spring setup without needing dual rate springs which means that HPI could use existing stock without needing to create new (the big bore shocks are using the old Hellfire springs, which are truggy length springs) springs. The smaller spring is much heavier than even the red spring and is meant to help absorb the really large impacts. Unless you running short tires, or tires with flexible sidewalls, a 5B/5T/5SC conversion more than likely will never bottom out; not enough travel in the suspension! So _dv's suggestion of replacing the short spring with the spacer probably isn't a bad idea.

As a point of reference, fully loaded mine weighs 16.4lbs. Thats with a 5mm TCS TVP, the tranny, bulletproof diffs, flux motor mount, torq motor, 5S 5000mah batteries in a custom battery box, Mamba Monster, Spektrum receiver and HiTec servo both mounted in the plastic Savage servo/raido box without the lid, and lastly running 24mm Baja 5B/T/SC hubs on XL axles with ProLine 5B Badland front/rear tires on Proline 5B Desperado wheels.

Originally Posted by Knez

Well the thing is...DB are made to transfer the power. Well i didnt see no cups that can take bigger "DB ball ends" so there would be no point for manufaturer to make those bigger or thicker...but thicker DB in a longer truck like 5b is always welcomed in my .

Thicker != better. Not sure that a new dogbone was needed for the rear, probably should just have used the standard XL rear dogbone as that would have provided the space for bigger motors. Thicker just means more rotating mass. The longer dogbone does probably need to be a bit thicker to avoid flexing as I understand it; but then again not a mechanical engineer so can't say for certain.

Oh and there are larger cups, 11mm vs 8mm, for the XL suspension dogbones, but none that I know for the gearbox or the diff pinions.

Originally Posted by Knez

I am thinking to put 1520 or 1717 in this thing... any advice?

I have been running a "HPI Torq", i.e. rebranded 1515 as it fits in the standard Flux motor mount, but am switching to the 1520 in mine as I switch to a center diff setup. In either case you need a different motor mount or you need to grind out the Flux mount to accept the larger diameter motors; only like ~1 mm with the 1520, like 5mm with the 1518.

[thzero]

I think red is a bit too stiff. I'm running yellow right now, with 50weight oil, and may go back to white.

Originally Posted by _dV

Would probably be better off with a red spring and the plastic tube that comes with the stock shocks then that double spring?

[mrsnuggles]

Originally Posted by Knez

I also doubt that he would be a copy-cat

Alza Baja kit is a lot better than tcs kit, more settings and options also a lot better weight distribution and easy to maintain as servo plate is not as big as HPI box so makes things easier, at least aproach to the steering kit.



Well there is like 158mm or maybe 159mm room.
i personally use HK 5000mAh 3S 40C/50C lipos so ther eis a space for a "foam" so lipos get protected a bit...



Do u mean my signature or the link that i provided or that Desertboy XL signature in the picture or all this ?



And here a pic, that slipped...

HPI A720 shocks with pink + yellow springs vs "down" HPI stock
For heavy loaded trucks..


Knez

actually he is a copy cat. he just copyed my product, bashcatrc bulkhead braces, he just made some tweaks to the design. one piece was even a direct copy, but i got him to change the design enough so that it would not be mistaken as mine.

it really sucks to have worked hard on coming up with solutions for problems that the original design has, and having some guy with a cnc machine ripping your design off.

just wanted to let you know what this guy is all about.

[thzero]

Um, bashcatrc? Never heard of it... :| Only a brief hit on orgamikids or something like that for some braces. If a product was really visible in the market then yeah, maybe.

As far as the copying the TCS Crawlers 5T... not really. All they are is a stretched set of Flux TVPs. Its not like they put tons of engineering effort into it, say more like the forward tranny design from FLM.

Personally if he was here in the States, or I suppose me in Europe, I'd send some stuff his way because he has a CNC machine, is willing to do the work, doesn't seem to want to charge and arm and a leg (or over engineer it) and he seems a bit more responsive than some folks around here.

Originally Posted by mrsnuggles

actually he is a copy cat. he just copyed my product, bashcatrc bulkhead braces, he just made some tweaks to the design. one piece was even a direct copy, but i got him to change the design enough so that it would not be mistaken as mine.

it really sucks to have worked hard on coming up with solutions for problems that the original design has, and having some guy with a cnc machine ripping your design off.

just wanted to let you know what this guy is all about.

[mothman]

Originally Posted by mrsnuggles

actually he is a copy cat. he just copyed my product, bashcatrc bulkhead braces, he just made some tweaks to the design. one piece was even a direct copy, but i got him to change the design enough so that it would not be mistaken as mine.

it really sucks to have worked hard on coming up with solutions for problems that the original design has, and having some guy with a cnc machine ripping your design off.

just wanted to let you know what this guy is all about.

Mrsnuggles, I have your bashcat brace and I love it. But going around telling people he is a copy cat wont make your products any better. FYI, years before you come up with that brace there were already people who were using double brace on their savage, almost identical to your design. He MIGHT have got the idea after looking at your brace but he improved the design and used better, lighter material, 7075.
And your design is not patented either.. you cant claim that its your design though. Perhaps you could come out with a better design to outperform his? And I would love to get that from you.

[Knez]

Well nobody likes competitors...
If he makes a particular part for flux and that part cant be made in 10 diferent ways...i really dont know how u can call him copy cat.
But anyway..all i care for is low price and good quality products!
Alza racing is all about that and more...i have most of the parts made by him and i can say he is got top noch RC parts and price is great!!!!
Personaly i will buy everthing possible form him as he really lisens to customers wishes and he always tries to realize them in a short as possible time and from a very good and strong material!
Also remember..he is not cutting only savage parts but a lot more other stuff!
And yes, finally we in EU got a nice RC shop wich will not take ur every penny to cut you something. Alza racing is a GooD company and he is a good guy!!! Many people are more than impressed with hes stuff.

If someone cuts cheaper and makes even better and stronger parts isnt that a good thing?

I personally never hear of any bashcatRC...never.
But i heard of alza racing, gcm racing, RC Monster and so on. As they have internet site where u can actually find products and buy them.


And to do a small update.. here a video from yesterday, my and friends flux 5b.

I use 6S
20/44T
CC 1520 1600kv
39T HS idlear gear
CC Mamba XL

He uses 5S
23/44T
CC 1520 1600kv
39T HS idler gear
CC MMM

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNzjKQ_51Hc[/YOUTUBE]

Link : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNzjKQ_51Hc

[thzero]

Yeah, imagine that... a guy with a r/c business that actually listens and responds to customers who might be wanting to give him money for his time and services. Its a novel new concept (and no, Alza isn't the one I'm "ripping" on).

Originally Posted by Knez

...as he really listens to customers wishes

[JasonB]

Has anyone formally asked Alza Racing, GCM, or RC Monster to make some decent tranny gears to replace the 29T and 32T junk gears that so many people hate? Lube fixes the problem, but it would be nice for us to have other options.