Novak Brushless Conversion

[jhautz]

Originally Posted by nativepaul

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If it is any good it may get electric 1/8th classes set up and encourage others, if however it is slower than nitro and prone to overheating, thousands of people will see it and think that even with BL/LiPo technology electric 1/8th isn't viable, the classes either wont materialize or will be plagued by problems and many that are considering going electric will decide not to, thinking that if the might of novac cant get it right, what chance do they have using parts from smaller company's like RC Monster, castle, mgm and Neu.

It has the potential to be very good for electric 1/8th, or very bad for it, I sure hope the new 540 size HV series is up to the task.

I'm with you on this one. I am very worried that if they are troublesome, it could actually do more damage to the class than the good it could do. Lets keep our fingers crossed that Novak did its homework.

[macr0w]

I hate to say it but Castles not helping that view right now.

I have confidence that they will get the MMM straightened out. (I have bought and burned 2 of them so far)

But right now I'm sure it's killing them as much as it's killing the confidence of all the perspective 1/8th scale electric guys.

I'm new to the 8th scale Brushless/lipo scene. But not new to RCs. Been into them for over 25 years.

I'm going with the whole Novak setup. Why? Cause its a complete solution. I don't have to wonder/worry that I chose an ESC thats compatible with motor x or y, or that it'll fit.

Now with that said, yeah, I hope they did their homework. I plan on racing at our local track against the Nitro 8th scales. There are a few people that are interested and will be watching how well it does. I've got a friend thats a sponsored driver who I'll most likely ask to race it once its set-up so that it has the best chance of making a good showing...

[tc3_racer_001]

just make sure bushy, that you get the best fans you can buy :D

no seriously, i think its a good idea, BUT as mentioned previously, novak is a make or break company. they do it right and everyone benefits (not the nitro companies but who cares about them haha) but if they do mess it up people who see our conversions will just think its a novak and that they sucked/unreliable etc etc...

if they do well, it will bring more people into this hobby imo.

Bushy,
I have the Novak 4.5 in my MP777 and take it to a nitro track. Last night at practice the nitro guys were impressed with it and the buggy was doing a backflip over a jump (mostly due to my poor driving skills).
Make sure to use both fans just to keep temperatures down, honestly the system (unless it is defective) is pretty solid with the 5mm rotor. I was running on an off for an hour yesterday and the motor/esc never got very hot (I did thermal the motor one day when running 30minutes constant in grass).
If you haven't purchased the motor yet I would suggest going with the 5.5 or smaller, my 4.5 has way to much power from a stand still, The nitro track out here is quite large, but unless it is good and wet I cannot give it full throttle most of the time (to much power). I honestly think if I was running the 5.5 or 6.5 I could probably get better lap times just because the wheels would be getting better grip.
In terms of speed my buggy was going 45mpg on the street with bald tires (no grip, sliding all over the place). With some good on-road tires/foams I would probably have been doing 50+ (that is on a 4S setup w/ a 10T pinion).
But honestly, that kind of speed at the track is not needed (anything over 40mph is overkill IMO).

[DRIFT_BUGGY]

That's great news cmcclive, how big was the track?

Thanks for the info. Yeah, I'll definitely be running both fans. I'll also examine the fans and if they don't seem durable enough I'll replace them with something else. I've done that already on my GTB system I run in my trf501x.

I ordered the 6.5 motor. So, we'll see. I'm hoping the ESC has enough of a programming profile to allow me to tune the bottom end.

I'm going to go with the Maxamps 8000HV 3S2P 11.1V Pack. Hopefully that will give me the run time I need.

I'm planning on doing some testing first to ensure I don't overheat my set-up and that it'll last the time I need. Then it'll be off to the races!

Originally Posted by cmcclive

Bushy,
I have the Novak 4.5 in my MP777 and take it to a nitro track. Last night at practice the nitro guys were impressed with it and the buggy was doing a backflip over a jump (mostly due to my poor driving skills).
Make sure to use both fans just to keep temperatures down, honestly the system (unless it is defective) is pretty solid with the 5mm rotor. I was running on an off for an hour yesterday and the motor/esc never got very hot (I did thermal the motor one day when running 30minutes constant in grass).
If you haven't purchased the motor yet I would suggest going with the 5.5 or smaller, my 4.5 has way to much power from a stand still, The nitro track out here is quite large, but unless it is good and wet I cannot give it full throttle most of the time (to much power). I honestly think if I was running the 5.5 or 6.5 I could probably get better lap times just because the wheels would be getting better grip.
In terms of speed my buggy was going 45mpg on the street with bald tires (no grip, sliding all over the place). With some good on-road tires/foams I would probably have been doing 50+ (that is on a 4S setup w/ a 10T pinion).
But honestly, that kind of speed at the track is not needed (anything over 40mph is overkill IMO).

Originally Posted by DRIFT_BUGGY

That's great news cmcclive, how big was the track?

The club hasn't posted any pics with a car on the track yet so it is hard to get a feel for the size, but this should give you an idea.

[DRIFT_BUGGY]

Wow, that is a very nice track

I am getting a kyosho mp777 next month.. I have a mp7.5 right it has a nitro motor but since there is a nitro shortage and a gallon of gas might be 40-50 bucks a gallon.. So i am going to make the 7.5 electric to practice with and keep the mp777 nitro for race day because i do not have the time on a race day to charge packs...

[tc3_racer_001]

sorry to burst your bubble but practising with electric, with a different veichle will be completely different to nitro on race day :)

but both really fun :)

wish i had enough money to have both. nitro for the track, and electric for the track (every 2nd race) and bashing :)

Originally Posted by mwry13

I hope so too... Big guys behind the company like Brent Thelkie and Ryan Lutz were interested in the car... Hopefully there enthusiasm will push a experamental car ^_^

I am very good friends with Ryan Lutz and we were racing together so i talked about the BL 1/8 buggies and he did not did not say much but i think he liked the it... But the down side is u can not run a 1hr main with out a battery change and what if the battery gets damaged or it is not charged all the way or the esc breaks because i know they can take a lot but a 1hr main and one might break so that is the down side... But you could say so much about a nitro car to because there is a lot that can go wrong to.. i do not think that electric 1/8 buggy or truggy will make it into the pro racing seen unless it was in its own class... The sound of a nitro car is so exciting and the electric is not but electric is faster and has more power over all...

So it i like both nitro and electric i think that when more pros get into the electric 1/8 cars then batteries will get better an last a good 45m minutes with full power and then i think most will switch to electric i race nirto right now but i am working a converting my 1/8 bugggy to electric..

Originally Posted by tc3_racer_001

sorry to burst your bubble but practising with electric, with a different veichle will be completely different to nitro on race day :)

but both really fun :)

wish i had enough money to have both. nitro for the track, and electric for the track (every 2nd race) and bashing :)

I know but it will be close.. I still want to make it electric 1/8 buggy

[tc3_racer_001]

then go for it!! take up the challenge... and id like to know how much different it is :)

Originally Posted by tc3_racer_001

then go for it!! take up the challenge... and id like to know how much different it is :)

Ok i am getting a job soon so i should have it done in a month or 2 depending on if i sell my revo which i think i will.....