Project OverKill (hehe)

Originally Posted by t-maxxracer32

im not saying it isnt possible because ive seen videos. im saying it is unrealistic to actually bash with one of those cars.

all you are doing is speed runs in the street/parking lots, but since the car is smaller it gives the apperance that it is actuall faster than it really is

my latest thought is that I will upgrade my Rc18, here is a list

ESC Mamba Micro Pro
Battery FP 25 evo 4s 1500
Hyperion y-22 4400 long can or Neu 1105/2y

I am thinking about the diffs they are the weak point in the RC18s

Originally Posted by DRIFT_BUGGY

The Trinity motor is manufactured by CC, The 280 sized motor features a long rotor for added torque, and 3 zero loss connectors that accept power from the ESC.
That is what Xtreme RC/RC411 said when they did the review on the NOW.

It's a feigao motor. I already went through one of them after the rotor decided to grenade on me for no apparent reason (used it within spec) and had to send it in to Trinity. It also has the classic "windings coming out of the can" in the typical feigao colors. The front also has the little bearing nub, whereas the CC motors are flat on the front endbell.

The ESC is made by Castle Creations, but not the motor.

On a side note, the Trinity motor in the NOW SUCKS. As I already said before, the rotor went on me from normal usage (slipper set so that it slipped about a half a foot, no drivetrain binding, stock gearing from the factory, proper gear mesh, etc.). The replacement motor I got runs just as hot as the first one (up to 180F after about 5 minutes with the stock pinion). I ordered a 4200kv 20x45mm for the NOW with fins on the can from hobby city. I may lose some speed, but so be it. As long as it runs cooler. The thing was a little too fast to use anyways off road.

Originally Posted by azjc

my latest thought is that I will upgrade my Rc18, here is a list

ESC Mamba Micro Pro
Battery FP 25 evo 4s 1500
Hyperion y-22 4400 long can or Neu 1105/2y

I am thinking about the diffs they are the weak point in the RC18s

for the diffs just use mip super diffs, delrin gears, 3 shims on the diff, and one shim on the gear coming off the shaft (i used a washer that goes behind the wheel pin) when u drive it slow its fells really tight but once you get up to speed it opens up and is pefect. i have not strpied a diff yet.

here is my setup

mm esc
8000 kv mamba motor
2 x 2cell 900mah 12c for a total of 1800mah 24c

Originally Posted by drkros3

for the diffs just use mip super diffs, delrin gears, 3 shims on the diff, and one shim on the gear coming off the shaft (i used a washer that goes behind the wheel pin) when u drive it slow its fells really tight but once you get up to speed it opens up and is pefect. i have not strpied a diff yet.

here is my setup

mm esc
8000 kv mamba motor
2 x 2cell 900mah 12c for a total of 1800mah 24c

That's still only a 12c battery. The C rating doesn't change if you parallel the batteries or series them. So you actually have a 12c 1800mah pack, not a 24c. Even at 12c, the 1800mah pack still pumps out about 21 amps continuous, so not like it's lacking.

[/end nitpick]

Originally Posted by drkros3

for the diffs just use mip super diffs, delrin gears, 3 shims on the diff, and one shim on the gear coming off the shaft (i used a washer that goes behind the wheel pin) when u drive it slow its fells really tight but once you get up to speed it opens up and is pefect. i have not strpied a diff yet.

here is my setup

mm esc
8000 kv mamba motor
2 x 2cell 900mah 12c for a total of 1800mah 24c

I have the MIP super diffs but only the stock plastic gears...do you have a link for the delrin gears?

you can only get the delrin gears with the whole diff. i had gotten the diff and then sold the out drives on it.

you can find it at thetoyz.com


and thanks for letting me know that its still a 12c. me and my boss could not figure it out if it doubled the c rating. but it does put out a lot more power then my friends 2cell 1330mah 13c battery.

[killajb]

FYI Hyperion long can Y-22 series motors will fit in the RC18.

[Skelbow]

In my Mini Quake I run :

Thunder Power 3S 1320 MaH Battery
Mamba 25 ESC
RCer Warp4 2 Turn BL Motor (6 pole - 3880 kv)

All I can say is WOW. It is stupidly fast, I can rarely get it up to full speed, it usually flips before it reaches it. But great for bashing around, and I have yet to break ANY driveline parts with probably 35+ runs on it.

[Metallover]

I have a Neu 1107/1.5D 8500kv motor in my vendetta and on 2s it's a beast. I'm trying to get a medusa motor to run on 4s. My Quark 33 thermalled all the time and my suppo (super simple) 40a got burning hot with the Neu. I got a 1/10th sidewinder and that still gets fairly warm on the heatsink. I must be pulling a whole lot of amps. I'm getting a mamba max now, and I'll be able to use it in my revo too. I have an Apogee 1500mah and a Fligtpower 1600mah 2s pack. I haven't done enough testing to compare the packs.

If you are going for overkill, get a Neu 1110/2.5D and run it on 4s.

Here is a vid with my vendetta with the apogee. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S32YX7e01cE

[lutach]

Originally Posted by Metallover

I have a Neu 1107/1.5D 8500kv motor in my vendetta and on 2s it's a beast. I'm trying to get a medusa motor to run on 4s. My Quark 33 thermalled all the time and my suppo (super simple) 40a got burning hot with the Neu. I got a 1/10th sidewinder and that still gets fairly warm on the heatsink. I must be pulling a whole lot of amps. I'm getting a mamba max now, and I'll be able to use it in my revo too. I have an Apogee 1500mah and a Fligtpower 1600mah 2s pack. I haven't done enough testing to compare the packs.

If you are going for overkill, get a Neu 1110/2.5D and run it on 4s.

Here is a vid with my vendetta with the apogee. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S32YX7e01cE

You should've seen my Recoil with the Mega ACn16/15/1 (9200Kv), it was out of this world. I have the Neu 1107/1.5D, but I made a mistake on my ESC and it burned one phase.

Originally Posted by Metallover

I have a Neu 1107/1.5D 8500kv motor in my vendetta and on 2s it's a beast. I'm trying to get a medusa motor to run on 4s. My Quark 33 thermalled all the time and my suppo (super simple) 40a got burning hot with the Neu. I got a 1/10th sidewinder and that still gets fairly warm on the heatsink. I must be pulling a whole lot of amps. I'm getting a mamba max now, and I'll be able to use it in my revo too. I have an Apogee 1500mah and a Fligtpower 1600mah 2s pack. I haven't done enough testing to compare the packs.

If you are going for overkill, get a Neu 1110/2.5D and run it on 4s.

Here is a vid with my vendetta with the apogee. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S32YX7e01cE

a 8500kv motor that pulls a lot of amps...now theres a surprise...

[killajb]

I'm with azjc on this one.. I started out running a C4 9000kv motor that just seemed like small portable heater. Lutac, I'm sure your Mega ACn16/15/1 made a fair amount of heat no matter how efficient is. How long were you able to run it before it got too hot? I just bought a Neu 1115 1D (5700kv) that I'm going to try to stuff in another 1/16 project with a custom chasis. The thought is to run it on 3s and gear fairly high due to the expected torque output of such a long can motor. I will post some feedback here.

[lutach]

Originally Posted by killajb

I'm with azjc on this one.. I started out running a C4 9000kv motor that just seemed like small portable heater. Lutac, I'm sure your Mega ACn16/15/1 made a fair amount of heat no matter how efficient is. How long were you able to run it before it got too hot? I just bought a Neu 1115 1D (5700kv) that I'm going to try to stuff in another 1/16 project with a custom chasis. The thought is to run it on 3s and gear fairly high due to the expected torque output of such a long can motor. I will post some feedback here.

The Mega didn't get hot at all and most of the time I ran on the track. I was using a 16T pinion with the 56T spur. Too fast for the little track at Xtreme RC Addicts. I now have a 6 pole low Kv motor which is the only motor that the Kontronik Beat 70 Car actually works and I have a nice 22T pinion to get some speed out of the Recoil and one guy at the track could not believe how smooth my Recoil is. That guy btw runs the C4 9000Kv+ motor in his Recoil and it heats up pretty good. I have to see if Artur can fix my 60A controller which was the only one actually turning the Mega ACn16/15/1. Not even the Beat 70 can make it turn. I made a mistake on the timing of the 60A controller and it burned a couple of FETs.

[killajb]

I'm running a 25T pinion from a MLST in my "Recoil". I use quotes because it's actually a Carisma Nissan Skyline R32 which is essentially the exact same car minus the body and wheels, which I favor over the Sportwerks offering. I currently have a Hyperion Y-22 6000kv short can motor in there. It is very quick and top speed is pretty good as well. If I were to go to a track, I'd probably use this setup as it is. It does get a little hot after a few minutes, but I think adding a fan over the motor and ESC should tame things long enough to enjoy for a real race.