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12.02.2008, 05:04 PM

I like the simple motor mount. It looks like a couple bands that wrap around the 40mm motor and then are adjusted with then nitro motor mount slots. Simple.


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12.02.2008, 05:59 PM

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Granted, the whole 1/8th market has benefited greatly from RCM Mike's work and our work here, basically doing free R&D on setups for a while now. Basically the market is copying what we've already figured out and proven to be reliable.
Amen. I just wander how long it will be before someone releases a direct drive vehicle- we should patent more of our ideas...
   
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12.02.2008, 06:51 PM

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IDK, why does General Motors sell 4 versions of the same car?

I think for one is for people who want the OEM replacement for their truck if its damaged, or only casual knowledge of BL systems. This could be hobby shops as well that do customer repairs. Plus I think HPI (or TRX) would want their name on it for notoriety. I'm sure they are paying castle a decent amt of money for licensing of the system, as well as the name change. No matter what system is purchased, castle wins.

At the end of the day, big congrats to Castle for getting a solid and affordable 1/8th BL package out and getting the OEMs to license it. There have been other vendors around for a while sitting on their asses not getting this done. How long have we spent putting various pieces together to make these things ourselves? All other vendors had strengths, but no one had all the pieces together until castle. WTF Novak (and Tekin) has been doing all this time is beyond me. Now castle is going to clean up as these things start to take off.

Granted, the whole 1/8th market has benefited greatly from RCM Mike's work and our work here, basically doing free R&D on setups for a while now. Basically the market is copying what we've already figured out and proven to be reliable.
It is also for distribution reasons. You can get HPI parts in a lot more places then you can Castle parts. Castle will not care if HPI sell them seperately as Castle is still selling the escs. I also Congratulate castle for their OEM deals.


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12.02.2008, 10:32 PM

Now on HPI's site- http://www.hpiracing.com/kitinfo/100646/


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http://www.rcplanet.com/HPI_Savage_F.../hpi100646.htm
   
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12.03.2008, 01:46 AM

This thing looks *way* better built than the E-Revo or an E-maxx. I have a 3905 E-maxx and frankly I was disappointed at how flimsy it feels, especially the chassis. The plastic used in the suspension is incredibly soft too (yes I understand the need for some flex in a basher, but it's just too much). It is way too easy to strip out. And the shocks, well frankly they were the first thing I pulled off. Don't get me wrong, the 3905 E-maxx is a fine basher, but this Savage just looks so much more serious.

When I got the E-maxx I was expecting to get something as hefty and well-machined as my nitro Revo (which I have hardly run because of my impatience with nitro), but I was definitely disappointed. The E-maxx performs fine, but when you shell out that much money you should get something that has the high quality, machined feel to it IMO, not some piece of molded plastic. It makes it more enjoyable and easier to work on as well, IMO.

Anyway, wish I had waited on my brushless MT.
   
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12.03.2008, 09:44 PM

I have to much in my E maxx now to get rid of it now, but if this truck is anything like the savage x that would make it as strong as a well modded E maxx, and twice as fast. Way better deal IMO. They beat the s__t out of it in the video. Ever see traxxas do that? A true blue basher.
   
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12.03.2008, 10:26 PM

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I have to much in my E maxx now to get rid of it now, but if this truck is anything like the savage x that would make it as strong as a well modded E maxx, and twice as fast. Way better deal IMO. They beat the s__t out of it in the video. Ever see traxxas do that? A true blue basher.
Actually, yes - every weekend with my converted Revo, as I'm sure many others will attest to. The video really wasnt anything special. I'm not trying to downplay the durability of this HPI, just sticking up for our most popular brand a little.


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12.03.2008, 11:50 PM

IDK, I hated my emaxx. Unreliable moneypit and always broke. Nearly quit RC over it.

Revo was much better, but difficult to work on in a lot of little ways, and a bit of a money pit too. Taking out the diffs is like brain surgery compared to other 1/8ths, plus they are far weaker and harder to tune w/ oil (as it needs to be so heavy due to silly design.) I really don't like the suspension setup anymore. Rocker posts bend easy, as can pushrods, and shocks are hard to get just right for our heavy electrics.The shocks just seem a bit undersized. A single large shock on a tower is so much simpler and tougher imo.

So far I am highly impressed w/ my Savvy. Extremely tough and far easier to work on than I ever thought. Its had lots of updates over the years, but its a pretty solid truck. Diffs are easy to get to, tranny can be serviced easy. So far nothing has been difficult to do and has lived through some tough driving w/o complaint.

Not trying to make it a Trx vs HPI thing, but in my experience I would highly recommend a Sav over a Revo for a basher, and a nearly any truggy over a Revo for racing. Revo seems a bit of a jack of all trades, master of none sort of truck. Granted I ran mine over two years and enjoyed it, but there are better trucks. I would have gotten rid of it but now I'm contemplating redoing it into a slayer. Seems like a good retirement for it.

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12.04.2008, 05:04 AM

hmm dude there was a link on page 3 that showed us all those pics.

i would like to see a pic of the opened tranny.

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12.04.2008, 11:39 AM

anyone concerned about the lack of airflow over the motor?
   
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12.04.2008, 11:57 AM

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anyone concerned about the lack of airflow over the motor?
nope with the combo and the lightness of the truck it shouldnt have a problem at all. I ran the combo in my FLM 15+ pound savy with not heat problems what so ever.


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12.04.2008, 02:02 PM

Looks like the battery bays can be removed and replaced with bigger ones, maybe an upgrade package or something.
   
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12.05.2008, 01:40 AM

when is the release date going to be does anybody know?
   
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