Nitro sucks!!!!!! - RC-Monster Forums

Rivermaxx · 01.17.2009, 08:25 AM

A bunch of nitro haters here. The reason I havent coverted earlier is I have allways heard bad things about the electric brushless trucks ecm burning up and lipo batts catching on fire and ruining your $500+ truck. With the new technologys I am sure people are going switch but its going to take a little time because the smell of burnt rc's and fried electronics is way worse then the smell of nitro.

jayjay283 · 01.17.2009, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rivermaxx

A bunch of nitro haters here. The reason I havent coverted earlier is I have allways heard bad things about the electric brushless trucks ecm burning up and lipo batts catching on fire and ruining your $500+ truck. With the new technologys I am sure people are going switch but its going to take a little time because the smell of burnt rc's and fried electronics is way worse then the smell of nitro.

lol fair enough, but those days are pretty much over. Far less common than your nitro flame outs or dead glow plugs. A solid electric will run for years, or 13 months I can attest to. Guarantee id smoke(less) you too. Anytime any place your chioce of vehicles. MT, Truggy, Buggy, 1/10th name it, if your "nitro wins" ill ...wear your hat

Rivermaxx · 10:02 AM

I am simply stating that alot of people think that all nitros with the same size engines have the same power output or the same reliability. Well its just like comparing a hand made neu or a pletty big maxximum to a hobby city motor. There is no comparison Right? The neu and pletty's are made better more efficient last longer and probably make more power. We all know this thats why we spend ~$250 instead of ~$50. My first nitro engines were the tiawan made traxxas engines and my first big block was a chinese hyper .21. These engines were both hard too tune and were prone too air leaks. They did have power when sealed & tuned properly(TRX 2.5 did awesome wheelies & hyper .21 did standing back flips & went ~55 mph 7 years ago) but neither was more user friendly or was easier to tune like an OS engine. OS engine are just made better for some reason they last a long time hold a tune and always have power. You really shouldnt judge somthing unless youve experienced it with good quality products. Basically you get what you pay for just like ecm's lipos and brushless motors.
Remember, I wasnt the first to challenge anyone I was merly trying to defend nitro for it good qualities. .

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Originally Posted by jayjay283

Guarantee id smoke(less) you too. Anytime any place your chioce of vehicles. MT, Truggy, Buggy, 1/10th name it, if your "nitro wins" ill ...wear your hat

I was challenged first so when I called him out he talked more crap and wussed . I didnt start the thread "nitro sucks" but I am sure if I started a thread "Brushless Sucks" I would expect you guys too defend it also. Especially if I talked a bunch of crap about a hobby you love to do.

starscream · 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rivermaxx

A bunch of nitro haters here. The reason I havent coverted earlier is I have allways heard bad things about the electric brushless trucks ecm burning up and lipo batts catching on fire and ruining your $500+ truck. With the new technologys I am sure people are going switch but its going to take a little time because the smell of burnt rc's and fried electronics is way worse then the smell of nitro.

haha

Come on, did you really expect to find a bunch of nitro lovers here? I spend tons of dough on Brushless and all things electric RC (ask my wife cuz she puts up with my affliction) so my opinion is most definetly biased. I love electric RC and will refuse to run nitro at ALL costs. The only reason I put up with nitro is that there has not been enough people to run an electric 8th scale class at my track but that is beginning to change.

You must be hanging out on newbie forums if all you have ever heard of is a bunch of flaming esc's and lipo's. I've been running brushles for 5 years in MTs' and 8th scales and have never smoked a Lipo. I was on the FMA Direct band wagon when the 20C Kokam scorpian & skyvolt packs came out and have been a Lipo user ever since. If someone invests $500+ in a RC, they should perform the due diligence needed to learn what they are doing before their investment goes up in flames.

Fact of the matter is electronics only stink when they fail... nitro's always stink.
It's not really a hard decision when you ask yourself, do I want a loud stinky messy truck or a quite one that has more power than I can handle. The only advantage nitro has is the ability of a quick pit in a 30 minute main but the end of these days is in sight.

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The sad thing is that these "Technologies" have been around for years, it has just taken the US market a long time to finally come around to supporting it. I feel like us old guys that spent the big $$$ in the begining kept the drive alive until it's finally caught on. I for one am a happy camper these days because the prices are comming down as well as a larger variety of choices becomming available.

It seems I hear of a new person at my local track working on converting their 8th scale to brushless every week and I expect to see this trend continue. Once the "big players" decide to produce a production desinged electic 8th scale we should see another boom in the growth of this class of racing. Some nay sayers tought that 8th scale elecric racing is a fad like the days of the crt.5 but this seems very short sited as it seems to me that the interest in the 8th scale class is not going to fade like the 12th scale class did and more nitro racers will convert from the dark side as well as 10th scale racers make a move up to the big leagues.
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Getter Robo · 01.17.2009, 09:57 AM

I shot me a MB5 Prospec roller at ebay for a brushless conversion. Even after taking apart and cleaning it I can still find spots to get my hands dirty. Nasty!

JERRY2KONE · **Proof is in the pudding. -** 01.17.2009, 10:24 AM

Hey Rivermaxx we are happy that you have come to play here at RCM, and that you are slowly making the change over to BL, but you are right there is no love lost here for nitro and that is not going to change even though some of the guys here run both.

As far as your comment on the BL Revo well things are just begining to heat up in that respect. We all know that the power of BL is much higher than nitro, especially on take off. A DC motor has twice the torque of a nitro setup, and a steady flow of power until the batteries reach their miliamp limits. That end is only getting better and better. As for the ESC's and other electronics burning up. A lot of those events are due to improper setups, Poor choice of equipment matching, and lack of knowledge for the most part. Even the manufacturers are still in the learning curve for BL so we are at their mercy. Still if you do your homework and make the right choices for your setup I would be willing to bet that you could give your old nitro counterparts a run for the money, and probably convince them to try BL due to your showing. It is still a matter of preference just like fans of Ford or Chevy or whatever. Who really cares anyway. Just have fun running what ever you can get your hands on and enjoy the hobby. Lifes too short. Good luck with that guys. Can't we all just get along???

starscream · 01.17.2009, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE

Lifes too short. Good luck with that guys. Can't we all just get along???

You are right about life being too short. I'd rather spend my finite time here not putting up with obnoxious smoke, fumes, and noise. At times I feel I should wear a hasmat suit along with ear plugs while I'm around the nitros as by the end of most race days my eyes burn, my lungs hurt and my ears are ringing. Nitros are just not a healthy way of RC and I for one will be happy when I no longer have to race with them

The truth is that I just don't get along with Nitros, thats why I don't run them.